Ok...Here we go!!!
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Ok...Here we go!!!
Ok, I'm diving in. Opening myself up to the best suggested setup.
After reading A LOT on here about full systems like HT, J&M, Boom, RF......Pros but mostly cons.... I've decided to let myself be the student and see what the gurus here have to say. I am OCD and like for things to match but I'm open to different products being put together for the goal of a great sounding system. If I do this, I will be changing the fairing and TP speakers and adding lower speaker pods from HT that accommodate a 6.5".
I have pretty much decided not to do the bag lids, in lieu of lowers.
First:
What I ride: 2017 Ultra Limited with quick detach TP kit. (Only ride with the TP when the wife rides. About 10% of the time.)
How I ride: Not a speed demon. 60% Backroads and surface streets and 40% Highway at which I'm usually around 80 mph (allegedly).
Pipes: Cobra Neighbor Haters (no baffle, no cat)
How I listen: All kinds of music. Not big into thumping base. Not looking to win any competitions at a bike night or blow myself off the seat. Clear quality sound at 80 without having to put the volume level on the roof to do it..
Budget: I would like to stay under a thou, if possible.
So, hit me with the questions or suggested setups.
...And........GO!
After reading A LOT on here about full systems like HT, J&M, Boom, RF......Pros but mostly cons.... I've decided to let myself be the student and see what the gurus here have to say. I am OCD and like for things to match but I'm open to different products being put together for the goal of a great sounding system. If I do this, I will be changing the fairing and TP speakers and adding lower speaker pods from HT that accommodate a 6.5".
I have pretty much decided not to do the bag lids, in lieu of lowers.
First:
What I ride: 2017 Ultra Limited with quick detach TP kit. (Only ride with the TP when the wife rides. About 10% of the time.)
How I ride: Not a speed demon. 60% Backroads and surface streets and 40% Highway at which I'm usually around 80 mph (allegedly).
Pipes: Cobra Neighbor Haters (no baffle, no cat)
How I listen: All kinds of music. Not big into thumping base. Not looking to win any competitions at a bike night or blow myself off the seat. Clear quality sound at 80 without having to put the volume level on the roof to do it..
Budget: I would like to stay under a thou, if possible.
So, hit me with the questions or suggested setups.
...And........GO!
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Biketronics break out Harness with the line level converters "should be a MUST" as that will give you ease of installation. But that will eat $270 of your budget.
Leaves $730 for speakers, Amp, Wire kit
Juice.
Leaves $730 for speakers, Amp, Wire kit
Juice.
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you might think about just building a real solid front stage and wait until you hear that before you add the tp pods in the mix, due to the detachable nature of what you describe. If your front stage is killer, wifey and yourself may find that you dont need the rear pods, but.....
good quality higher powered 4 channel amp, Soundigital, ARC or Focal
Pa style 6.5's for lower, Mmats, DD, Hertz SV series
coaxial 6.5's for fairing, Arc Moto 6.5v2, Hertz Mille, or DDAW6.5,txo crossover and t2b tweeter mounted in grill.
BT line leveler or dsp.
the reason I talk about this is you say that you ride 90% with the tourpack off, with what i listed above you will get a great sound an lots of volume so you might find you dont need to do the rears, as doing the rear with a detach set up will require the extra harness stuff and maybe the fabbing of some additional quick disconnect wiring. it's just something to think about depending on your taste. the main idea is to build the front as best as you can for the money you want to spend and to me having the front be killer trumps the amount of fill you get from the T/P pods.
m
you can get crazier for the front if you want to jump in the PA speaker pond, but at that point you are going to want to add a DSP into the mix in order to get the max out of your investment.
good quality higher powered 4 channel amp, Soundigital, ARC or Focal
Pa style 6.5's for lower, Mmats, DD, Hertz SV series
coaxial 6.5's for fairing, Arc Moto 6.5v2, Hertz Mille, or DDAW6.5,txo crossover and t2b tweeter mounted in grill.
BT line leveler or dsp.
the reason I talk about this is you say that you ride 90% with the tourpack off, with what i listed above you will get a great sound an lots of volume so you might find you dont need to do the rears, as doing the rear with a detach set up will require the extra harness stuff and maybe the fabbing of some additional quick disconnect wiring. it's just something to think about depending on your taste. the main idea is to build the front as best as you can for the money you want to spend and to me having the front be killer trumps the amount of fill you get from the T/P pods.
m
you can get crazier for the front if you want to jump in the PA speaker pond, but at that point you are going to want to add a DSP into the mix in order to get the max out of your investment.
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you might think about just building a real solid front stage and wait until you hear that before you add the tp pods in the mix, due to the detachable nature of what you describe. If your front stage is killer, wifey and yourself may find that you dont need the rear pods, but.....
good quality higher powered 4 channel amp, Soundigital, ARC or Focal
Pa style 6.5's for lower, Mmats, DD, Hertz SV series
coaxial 6.5's for fairing, Arc Moto 6.5v2, Hertz Mille, or DDAW6.5,txo crossover and t2b tweeter mounted in grill.
BT line leveler or dsp.
the reason I talk about this is you say that you ride 90% with the tourpack off, with what i listed above you will get a great sound an lots of volume so you might find you dont need to do the rears, as doing the rear with a detach set up will require the extra harness stuff and maybe the fabbing of some additional quick disconnect wiring. it's just something to think about depending on your taste. the main idea is to build the front as best as you can for the money you want to spend and to me having the front be killer trumps the amount of fill you get from the T/P pods.
m
you can get crazier for the front if you want to jump in the PA speaker pond, but at that point you are going to want to add a DSP into the mix in order to get the max out of your investment.
good quality higher powered 4 channel amp, Soundigital, ARC or Focal
Pa style 6.5's for lower, Mmats, DD, Hertz SV series
coaxial 6.5's for fairing, Arc Moto 6.5v2, Hertz Mille, or DDAW6.5,txo crossover and t2b tweeter mounted in grill.
BT line leveler or dsp.
the reason I talk about this is you say that you ride 90% with the tourpack off, with what i listed above you will get a great sound an lots of volume so you might find you dont need to do the rears, as doing the rear with a detach set up will require the extra harness stuff and maybe the fabbing of some additional quick disconnect wiring. it's just something to think about depending on your taste. the main idea is to build the front as best as you can for the money you want to spend and to me having the front be killer trumps the amount of fill you get from the T/P pods.
m
you can get crazier for the front if you want to jump in the PA speaker pond, but at that point you are going to want to add a DSP into the mix in order to get the max out of your investment.
I really don't want to go beyond $1,500 for this upgrade.
I must admit that I am new to this and several of your abbreviations are lost on me. Would you recommend I call Biketronics or BAL to put this altogether?
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Originally Posted by lesplay
Ok, so I'm fine with holding off on the TP pods for now. I just purchased the NEW Hogtunes wet head pods for the lowers. Psoff has just purchased the same pods and said that they will accommodate the Hertz MP 165.3 Pro.
I really don't want to go beyond $1,500 for this upgrade.
I must admit that I am new to this and several of your abbreviations are lost on me. Would you recommend I call Biketronics or BAL to put this altogether?
I really don't want to go beyond $1,500 for this upgrade.
I must admit that I am new to this and several of your abbreviations are lost on me. Would you recommend I call Biketronics or BAL to put this altogether?
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Those Hertz speakers or any other component speaker for that matter are not good choices for the lowers but will work great in the fairing. You'll need a Pro Audio style speaker like a PRV 6MR500 or MMats 601.4 in the lowers. The only issue with the PRV's is that they're square and will need to be rounded to fit the pods but that's not hard to do.
By the way, why are the Hertz no good for the lowers?
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Originally Posted by lesplay
Care to make a recommendation on a complete setup for the front fairing and lowers? Hit me with it and I'll see if my budget can take it. Best setup under $1,000 if possible.
By the way, why are the Hertz no good for the lowers?
By the way, why are the Hertz no good for the lowers?
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I think what Bates is saying that those hertz (coax) will be overkill on the highs for the fairing and lowers. You will want the pa style speakers as he mentioned to blend the highs from the fairing with solid mid range from the lowers. Hertz sv 165's are also a good choice for the lowers and will go in a set of cheap lowers off ebay without any modifications. That is what I am currently running. I may try a set of the MMats though.
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The sv's do though and make a huge difference from the front stage audio.