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Old Feb 17, 2019 | 10:08 PM
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I'm all about doing the most for the least amount of cash, so always looking for the cheapest alternative with a respectable quality of product/sound. I'll be trying tthe Dayton Audio DSP (new $150.) an a 4 speaker system hopefully this week. It's going in a Dyna with a small batwing fairing using Beyma coax's, and 2 PRV 8's in modified stock hardbags with horns. I've heard good reviews on the Dayton unit but I'll find out soon and let you know.
That's the way too expand the sandbox brother!!! Lots of good shix out there yet to be applied to the broader sled audio industry.

Keep us posted!!! Could be a very nice BT355 alternative for the 4 speaker crowd.

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Old Feb 17, 2019 | 11:29 PM
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Think this thru Mike. U won't need 2 SDs to power those 6 speakers. Wiring strategy!

All the left over cash pays for a DSP!!!

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I have been thinking about this for a while T. I don't think there is a wiring strategy that will help! Here's my dilemma...I have VO 6x9's in lids...TP Pods are HAT 7.1's both 4 ohm running in parallel (2 ohm) off channels 1&2 of the TN both with different efficiency, thus causing a volume imbalance, the GZCK 8's run in stereo off channels 3&4 are 4 ohm. I need to put the VO's and 7.1's on separate channels in order to tune them to their full potential. The only other option that is available is to replace the 7.1's with the NIB VO 6.5's that I have and see if I miss the 7.1 tweeters...pretty sure the VO 6x9's and the VO 6.5's will work better together in parallel, but will I miss the tweeter? If I miss the tweeter, I would add horns in the lids, but would still need additional amp (micro probably) to run the horns! I don't think a wiring strategy will help!
 
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Old Feb 18, 2019 | 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Moto Mike
I have been thinking about this for a while T. I don't think there is a wiring strategy that will help! Here's my dilemma...I have VO 6x9's in lids...TP Pods are HAT 7.1's both 4 ohm running in parallel (2 ohm) off channels 1&2 of the TN both with different efficiency, thus causing a volume imbalance, the GZCK 8's run in stereo off channels 3&4 are 4 ohm. I need to put the VO's and 7.1's on separate channels in order to tune them to their full potential. The only other option that is available is to replace the 7.1's with the NIB VO 6.5's that I have and see if I miss the 7.1 tweeters...pretty sure the VO 6x9's and the VO 6.5's will work better together in parallel, but will I miss the tweeter? If I miss the tweeter, I would add horns in the lids, but would still need additional amp (micro probably) to run the horns! I don't think a wiring strategy will help!
SD1200.4 with DSP having channel independent crossovers & ur dun.

Wiring strategy will determine the 2 ohm or 4 ohm version of that amp.

And if ur personally in a good place w the Watts ur current amp distributes then the right DSP puts u in a damn good place.

Problem solved!!!

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Old Feb 18, 2019 | 06:38 AM
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For what it's worth, I doubt you'll ever notice the tweeters in the 7.1's are gone.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2019 | 08:27 AM
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Looks like that Dayton unit has a very affordable Bluetooth dongle as an option as well.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2019 | 08:34 AM
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Mike you have too many different speakers, and not an audio "system" complimenting each other. You either need more amp channels or you need to wire some things in mono. You could do all of this with a couple hundred bucks and some time re-wiring a few things.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2019 | 08:47 AM
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It seems like Mike has four heavy duty speakers and two light duty ones if I am understanding things correctly. Would a cost effective solution be a really stout four channel amp for the 6x9s and 8s and a lighter weight amp for the tour pak pod speakers? I can hear my pod speakers pretty good with 100 watts going to them, but they are crossed at 120Hz so I ain't exactly pounding them.

Do y'all think the TN 900 would work well for his 6x9s and 8s with each speaker getting it's own channel? Maybe then just get a smaller amp for the pods and invest in a DSP? I realize space requirements come into play but the Arc PSM is really easy to hide. I wedged mine between the CB module and GPS power supply on my pre-Rushmore bike. That would allow him to tune each of the three pairs of speakers precisely and the cost of the smaller amp and DSP would be less than the price of that new amp.

Just spitballing. I didn't really feel comfortable with my system until each speaker had its own amp channel.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2019 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoyt 1911A1
It seems like Mike has four heavy duty speakers and two light duty ones if I am understanding things correctly. Would a cost effective solution be a really stout four channel amp for the 6x9s and 8s and a lighter weight amp for the tour pak pod speakers? I can hear my pod speakers pretty good with 100 watts going to them, but they are crossed at 120Hz so I ain't exactly pounding them.

Do y'all think the TN 900 would work well for his 6x9s and 8s with each speaker getting it's own channel? Maybe then just get a smaller amp for the pods and invest in a DSP? I realize space requirements come into play but the Arc PSM is really easy to hide. I wedged mine between the CB module and GPS power supply on my pre-Rushmore bike. That would allow him to tune each of the three pairs of speakers precisely and the cost of the smaller amp and DSP would be less than the price of that new amp.

Just spitballing. I didn't really feel comfortable with my system until each speaker had its own amp channel.
I wouldn't. I've done entire bikes with just a 600/6 that sound fantastic even a 600/6 a small 250.2 all in the fairing. Thing with bikes like Mikes is that they are bolt on parts as the build grows and really don't end up flowing together so this is where you end up...throwing more parts on. I think the bike has too many speakers. I think it's 10 speakers? Fairing, lowers, TP, lids and inside the bags?? Ask Gannicus what I told him the first time I heard his bike ----- you have too many speakers, and worse too many different speakers (causing him to combine a 6.5 and 6x9 together. This is where less would be better). I know money and time is concern but there are cost effective ways to get this to flow better and it can be done with just one amp upgrade and that Dayton DSP or Fosgate DSP that are both not all that expensive in comparison to others.
 
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Thanks for chiming in Haze. Given the six speakers he has on the rear end how would you clean things up? I ask because I don't want to wind up going down that road myself.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2019 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Moto Mike
Looks like the It's Coming, thread has disappeared! As far as what amp has Band Pass setting, its the amp I am running in my TP right now! The Soundstream TN 900...has (off web page on SS website) HP, LP, Sub Sonic (whatever that means not sure) and Band Pass capabilities! My amp's selector switch shows HP (High Pass)... F (Full or all pass) and BPF (Band Pass Filter) but no LP setting! I looked at the one on Amazon and the selector switch is different it show Full...HP...LP...not sure how you would Band Pass the one on Amazon, I would have to call SS and inquire about that if interested!
I guess most amps that i have seen, that incorporate a LPF, it generally only extends to about 500hz.
For the guy running subs, which i believe that is what the freq range would be, thats great.
For guys running mids, 500hz seems way too low to set a LPF.

Just my $.02
 
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