Amp with Band Pass capabilities
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From: TEXAS
Originally Posted by Moto Mike
Jim its 3 sets of speakers...If you parallel 2 speakers on one channel...,they will not be able to be run with separate x-overs points, power (efficiency)..unless they are the same speakers...that's my point! I have 2 speakers on one channel now but one is a HAT 7.1 and the other is a VO 6x9...no worky!! I would need a 6 channel amp...that's the whole point of this thread. the 7.1 doesn't get loud enough in parallel with the 6x9 because of the facts that the 7'1 is a regular stereo speaker and the Vo 6x9 is a PA type speaker and has a higher efficiency! I explained that in detail in above post!
As Jim stated, if u wire the same speaker (make model size etc) together on a specific channel in parallel, u will have total control over that speaker set with the correct DSP. Channel 1 will be 6.5s and u can control the crossover, EQ, output, etc of those 6.5s with the channel 1 settings on the DSP.
Get those damn 6x9s and 6.5s separated first thing in the morning!!! The current cross pollination wiring strategy is suffocating those 6.5s.
U picking up what we are laying down?
Luv,
T
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Road Warrior
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I think this quote above is why ur having a problem getting your head around this Mike. If u are currently wiring a 6x9 and a 6.5 in parallel ur in a damn bad place. They should be wired as 6.5s on channel 1 and 6x9s on channel 2.
As Jim stated, if u wire the same speaker (make model size etc) together on a specific channel in parallel, u will have total control over that speaker set with the correct DSP. Channel 1 will be 6.5s and u can control the crossover, EQ, output, etc of those 6.5s with the channel 1 settings on the DSP.
Get those damn 6x9s and 6.5s separated first thing in the morning, and let's just keep ur current cross pollination wiring strategy between us girls and pretend it never happened.
U picking up what we are laying down?
Luv,
T
As Jim stated, if u wire the same speaker (make model size etc) together on a specific channel in parallel, u will have total control over that speaker set with the correct DSP. Channel 1 will be 6.5s and u can control the crossover, EQ, output, etc of those 6.5s with the channel 1 settings on the DSP.
Get those damn 6x9s and 6.5s separated first thing in the morning, and let's just keep ur current cross pollination wiring strategy between us girls and pretend it never happened.
U picking up what we are laying down?
Luv,
T
Last edited by Moto Mike; Feb 20, 2019 at 12:28 AM.
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Originally Posted by Moto Mike
Ok... Duh... now I get what your laying down! I have always wired in stereo..put 6.5's on channel 1 (right side)...put 6x9's on channel 2 (left side)...then won't that screw up stereo sound...unless I summed it somehow (also a new concept to me)! Juice recommended a DD DSP $250) (thought it was more) and SD 600.1 (also about $250 ish that's doable but my 07 SG charging system is on the edge now, after rock'n for a couple hour ride it barely starts sometimes...I guess I could try a better battery (have a good Yuasa now ...maybe a braille or an upgraded stater might be options... more money, more money LOL
Of course we all want more watts, but take baby steps and get ur system playing at it's full potential with ur current amps then make a decision regarding what is required at that point.
T
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Mike
All the suggestions are great and getting you going down the right track. The only downfall with your system right now that I can see for getting your system up and running with your current amps is that you will be stuck running the 8s in you bags in stereo and not parallel/bridged. as the TN4 900 is only stable at a 4 ohm load bridged.
Splitting the channels for 6.5 and 6x9 would be just to run Y splitters and combined the left and right channels (sum them).
I am free for the next few days and can give you a hand or chat about the next steps that need to be takin to get you ship to shore.
Drop me a dime after 3pm this week
All the suggestions are great and getting you going down the right track. The only downfall with your system right now that I can see for getting your system up and running with your current amps is that you will be stuck running the 8s in you bags in stereo and not parallel/bridged. as the TN4 900 is only stable at a 4 ohm load bridged.
Splitting the channels for 6.5 and 6x9 would be just to run Y splitters and combined the left and right channels (sum them).
I am free for the next few days and can give you a hand or chat about the next steps that need to be takin to get you ship to shore.
Drop me a dime after 3pm this week
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I ordered a DD DSP with Bluetooth remote and Juices recommendation of the SD Nano 600.1 2 ohm (600-700 rms depends on input voltage) to start my upgrade...thanks for everybody's help...should be interesting!
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Mike I think you will like this next phase of your project. The DSP can become a hobby in itself as you learn how to use it. Shoot sometimes as the miles roll by I decide I want to change the sound out of a certain pair of speakers and all I have to do is plug up my 15' USB cable from my workbench computer and do a little tinkering. With the unit you ordered I think you can actually do it with your phone at a stop. Also if you have a tablet of some type I think you could use that as well if you want a bigger screen.
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Good move of the DSP Mike!!!
As a discussion point only, I still think u jumped the gun on the SD 600.1. The SS PN900 is just not going to survive in ur build plans as it's just not the quality ur gonna need in a higher tier build. So now ur out mo money to replace that.
Getting the DSP in place and cranking then finding exactly what ur in need of and where, will put u in a spot to just swap the PN900 out for a much more efficient and higher SQ amp vs stacking.
If you have the space, cash, and charging system then stack away brother as more really can be better!! But I think u mentioned all 3 of the above things as personal parameters thus something to consider.
Just some productive input brother.
T
As a discussion point only, I still think u jumped the gun on the SD 600.1. The SS PN900 is just not going to survive in ur build plans as it's just not the quality ur gonna need in a higher tier build. So now ur out mo money to replace that.
Getting the DSP in place and cranking then finding exactly what ur in need of and where, will put u in a spot to just swap the PN900 out for a much more efficient and higher SQ amp vs stacking.
If you have the space, cash, and charging system then stack away brother as more really can be better!! But I think u mentioned all 3 of the above things as personal parameters thus something to consider.
Just some productive input brother.
T
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Good move of the DSP Mike!!!
As a discussion point only, I still think u jumped the gun on the SD 600.1. The SS PN900 is just not going to survive in ur build plans as it's just not the quality ur gonna need in a higher tier build. So now ur out mo money to replace that.
Getting the DSP in place and cranking then finding exactly what ur in need of and where, will put u in a spot to just swap the PN900 out for a much more efficient and higher SQ amp vs stacking.
If you have the space, cash, and charging system then stack away brother as more really can be better!! But I think u mentioned all 3 of the above things as personal parameters thus something to consider.
Just some productive input brother.
T
As a discussion point only, I still think u jumped the gun on the SD 600.1. The SS PN900 is just not going to survive in ur build plans as it's just not the quality ur gonna need in a higher tier build. So now ur out mo money to replace that.
Getting the DSP in place and cranking then finding exactly what ur in need of and where, will put u in a spot to just swap the PN900 out for a much more efficient and higher SQ amp vs stacking.
If you have the space, cash, and charging system then stack away brother as more really can be better!! But I think u mentioned all 3 of the above things as personal parameters thus something to consider.
Just some productive input brother.
T
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So...what would you recommend...your PM inbox is full!
Last edited by Moto Mike; Feb 21, 2019 at 09:59 PM.