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Hey AD, Looks like we will be getting together for a 8/2 flash and retune, although keeping my fade, would allow me to be a 1% er!
well looking at all the options, sure the 8/2 is the flattest, but the others with the fade option aren’t really all that different looking to me. In other words close enough for us mere riding mortals, and you can keep your fader
Last edited by mikes300; Dec 29, 2019 at 10:29 AM.
I thought that dead horse already got the shix beat out of it?
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the rta pics are good info for people tuning or trying to decide which flash to get. Since the flash question is a daily thing here I figured Id bump this up and maybe people will figure it out.
Thanks for a great job on the info AD, and especially the dealer link on Technoresearch. I had searched high and low for someone local that might be able to do a HU flash, and found nothing, and nobody for almost 1200 miles to the nearest RF dealer with flash capabilities. I just found 3 shops I didn't even know existed within a 100 miles. Awesome!!!!
I have an aftermarket HU on my old 05 Ultra so I rarely deal with the HD boom, other than when the odd buddy inquires. Most ended up replacing their HU, or using the 4/0 flash and the BT355, because they couldn't find any other options locally.
Now the whole flash, BT 355, HD messed up EQ thing, did that just become an issue on the 2014 and newer bikes? Or was it also a problem on the 2013 and down HD HU's as well? I was under the understanding that it all started in 2014.
To elaborate on what Haze is saying, 4/0 isnt great for a build. 8/2 is the way to go for the flattest signal that can be achieved out of a stock boom HU. American Hard Bag has some good articles on what they did to the DSR-1 to achieve a "Flat" signal. The EQ looks amazingly horrible. The signal correction to get flat is ridiculous. So why not skip the fade which isn't a deal breaker for 99% of us and try to start flat. Understanding it's not as easy as going to your local HD dealer and getting the 8/2 flash, but you can go to any independent shop with the Techno Research tool and get it done. Most I've seen charge $40-$60 and honestly it takes about 10 minutes total.
This is what AHB did to the DSR to correct the signal
This is what the end result looked like on an RTA
So needless to say, a lot of EQ'ing just to start flat. ARC did the same thing with their PSM to correct the HD EQ and match up to their original Moto 602 speakers.
The purpose of this post isn't to say there's a right way or a wrong way, but to prove the fact that if you want the best sounding system that will allow you to EQ properly, starting flat is your best option, hence the reason so many folks are going the aftermarket HU route.
With the addition of so many different DSP options that fit in our fairings that now have 8 channel outputs, guys can get creative with mono and stereo to achieve balance of every system on their sled and keep things under control, from their tweeters to their bag bass. Time aligment, output gain control, and EQ all play a huge part in balancing a system, whether it's a daily rider, ground pounder, or all out competition system.
Now on to 4/0 with a BT355. This is a very viable and proven option to get good sound on a budget. If you're a set it and forget it, 4 speaker rider with some 6.5's, then let it ride. But once you're going down the DSP route, just flash it and go forward with you're EQ.
Here is the link to the Techno Research dealer page where you can find a dealer in your area to get the flash done.
trying to improve 2016 RG, BT2189.14, BT355, Kappa 62ix 6.5's.
I just bought the bike. Knew I would want to upgrade the stereo and bought the used biketronics equipment from another member. I open the Fairing and there was a narc and inside. No line levelers. The bike had the bass turned all the way down. Stock HD speakers.
I don't see any fade controls but I do have AVC. (off).
I don't know what -if any- flash I have. The sound seems decent but I thought it would be a lot better !!!
Is it possible to tell what flash I have?
And if I have it "looked at" what flash should I get?
I read and read and read and I'm more confused.
With my setup above, if I look into my Flash, should I do 8/2 or 4/0,
I don't plan to change any of my current setup.
trying to improve 2016 RG, BT2189.14, BT355, Kappa 62ix 6.5's.
I just bought the bike. Knew I would want to upgrade the stereo and bought the used biketronics equipment from another member. I open the Fairing and there was a narc and inside. No line levelers. The bike had the bass turned all the way down. Stock HD speakers.
I don't see any fade controls but I do have AVC. (off).
I don't know what -if any- flash I have. The sound seems decent but I thought it would be a lot better !!!
Is it possible to tell what flash I have?
And if I have it "looked at" what flash should I get?
I read and read and read and I'm more confused.
With my setup above, if I look into my Flash, should I do 8/2 or 4/0,
I don't plan to change any of my current setup.
8/2 is good for a dsp to add back in some warmth.
If you have BT355 get the 4/0 (stock ultra) flash that they were designed for.
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