Feeling Stupid - GZCK install not going well
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I've tried it on a tender, running, makes no difference. I don't see any voltage drop whatsoever to the amp input.
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Quick update to this, and still having issues, though I finally feel like I'm making progress thanks to Adenton528. I double and triple checked all of my connections. Followed the sticky about setting the outputs on the amp so that they would be 22.5 volts. The interesting part is that I could NOT get CH1 & CH2 to get any lower than 27.5 volts. The gain dial was set all the way to lowest setting. Took the bike over to Mancuso Crossroads to get a "flat" curve flashed to the HU (hoping they did it properly as I tend to not trust anything I don't directly see). Still going into protect mode at about 60% (depending on the song that is playing, some hit protect at 40%, some a touch higher). Most of what gets pushed out my speakers is Rock, Metal, or Red Dirt Country. The heaviest "bass" thing that I listen to is Korn, so I'm not hitting the bass like with Rap. I got in the DSR1 and started adjusting settings. I enabled the High Pass filter as most things I've read recommend, and reaffirmed by Adenton528. I need to research and understand the filter and the curve slope. If I reduce each of the output channels from the DSR1 to the amp by about 5dB, the amplifier no longer goes in to protect mode (though I haven't really done any tuning).
The one setting I don't quite understand was mentioned by Adenton528, which is to set the DSR to 2vrms. Can this be explained as to where this information came from (as in why 2vrms?) and how it is used. I would think that it has to do with the output level from the HU, but reconciling that in my head isn't working out for me either. I'm also not understanding why I can't get under the 27.5 volts on CH1 & CH2 (realizing their gains are linked, I expect to see the same value on both).
Thank you all!
The one setting I don't quite understand was mentioned by Adenton528, which is to set the DSR to 2vrms. Can this be explained as to where this information came from (as in why 2vrms?) and how it is used. I would think that it has to do with the output level from the HU, but reconciling that in my head isn't working out for me either. I'm also not understanding why I can't get under the 27.5 volts on CH1 & CH2 (realizing their gains are linked, I expect to see the same value on both).
Thank you all!
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Quick update to this, and still having issues, though I finally feel like I'm making progress thanks to Adenton528. I double and triple checked all of my connections. Followed the sticky about setting the outputs on the amp so that they would be 22.5 volts. The interesting part is that I could NOT get CH1 & CH2 to get any lower than 27.5 volts. The gain dial was set all the way to lowest setting. Took the bike over to Mancuso Crossroads to get a "flat" curve flashed to the HU (hoping they did it properly as I tend to not trust anything I don't directly see). Still going into protect mode at about 60% (depending on the song that is playing, some hit protect at 40%, some a touch higher). Most of what gets pushed out my speakers is Rock, Metal, or Red Dirt Country. The heaviest "bass" thing that I listen to is Korn, so I'm not hitting the bass like with Rap. I got in the DSR1 and started adjusting settings. I enabled the High Pass filter as most things I've read recommend, and reaffirmed by Adenton528. I need to research and understand the filter and the curve slope. If I reduce each of the output channels from the DSR1 to the amp by about 5dB, the amplifier no longer goes in to protect mode (though I haven't really done any tuning).
The one setting I don't quite understand was mentioned by Adenton528, which is to set the DSR to 2vrms. Can this be explained as to where this information came from (as in why 2vrms?) and how it is used. I would think that it has to do with the output level from the HU, but reconciling that in my head isn't working out for me either. I'm also not understanding why I can't get under the 27.5 volts on CH1 & CH2 (realizing their gains are linked, I expect to see the same value on both).
Thank you all!
The one setting I don't quite understand was mentioned by Adenton528, which is to set the DSR to 2vrms. Can this be explained as to where this information came from (as in why 2vrms?) and how it is used. I would think that it has to do with the output level from the HU, but reconciling that in my head isn't working out for me either. I'm also not understanding why I can't get under the 27.5 volts on CH1 & CH2 (realizing their gains are linked, I expect to see the same value on both).
Thank you all!
the input voltage setting in the Dsp is there to match your source input to the output from the dsp. The lower the number the more the dsp boosts the output going to your amplifier. If you have it set at 2v and are seeing 27v at the amp try going to 4v in the dsp and measure the output from the amp again
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My gzck'S don't impress me much, I made the mistake of just ordering yellow baskets not checking if they were coaxial's or not
I hooked them up anyway giving them 200 watts each and not impressed at all.
Maybe in a car door they would work good, but on a bike not so much, also no water resistant coating on them.
I hooked them up anyway giving them 200 watts each and not impressed at all.
Maybe in a car door they would work good, but on a bike not so much, also no water resistant coating on them.
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From: Fond du Lac WI
My gzck'S don't impress me much, I made the mistake of just ordering yellow baskets not checking if they were coaxial's or not
I hooked them up anyway giving them 200 watts each and not impressed at all.
Maybe in a car door they would work good, but on a bike not so much, also no water resistant coating on them.
I hooked them up anyway giving them 200 watts each and not impressed at all.
Maybe in a car door they would work good, but on a bike not so much, also no water resistant coating on them.
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I agree. Having made the same mistake, I thought they sounded awful. Once I added the tweeters, they sound fantastic. I just can't get them very loud. I'm believing that I should have gone to the SD1200 instead of the SD800. I can only believe that they are trying to pull too much current to drive them.
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I agree. Having made the same mistake, I thought they sounded awful. Once I added the tweeters, they sound fantastic. I just can't get them very loud. I'm believing that I should have gone to the SD1200 instead of the SD800. I can only believe that they are trying to pull too much current to drive them.
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I'm at a point now that I feel like I either need to swap out the speakers or the amp. (Speakers are far less expensive). In my wildest dreams I never figured these would choke an 800w amp. I could still be doing something wrong though.
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They're just choking my amp. Only thing I can do to keep the amp out of protect mode is to dial back the dB level coming out of my DSP.
I'm at a point now that I feel like I either need to swap out the speakers or the amp. (Speakers are far less expensive). In my wildest dreams I never figured these would choke an 800w amp. I could still be doing something wrong though.
I'm at a point now that I feel like I either need to swap out the speakers or the amp. (Speakers are far less expensive). In my wildest dreams I never figured these would choke an 800w amp. I could still be doing something wrong though.
I ran into a similar situation a few years back with an external (passive)crossover was getting hot and causing the amp to go into protect mode (clip).