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Old May 8, 2021 | 04:00 PM
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Thanks for sharing. I am new to using a RTA and looking to gain more experience.

I was hoping @Tailwind or @SBates08 would expand on their comments regarding their take on the curve shape when tuning bike audio - appreciate any guidance on best practices.
 
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Old May 8, 2021 | 09:34 PM
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The smiley face comment is pretty accurate. You just dont want any big jumps up or down in the curve. I've just now started messing with RTA's for tuning myself.
 
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Old May 8, 2021 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by teedoff65
The smiley face comment is pretty accurate. You just dont want any big jumps up or down in the curve. I've just now started messing with RTA's for tuning myself.
To me "flat" sort of means that there are no gaping holes between freq bands and no huge spikes between bands. Fixing that will essentially create a "flat" RTA. From that point u can gradually shape the curve to ur liking and the capability of your system.

Hopefully this discussion continues as there is some pretty good feedback that can result from the RTA concept.

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Old May 8, 2021 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Old Sport
Assuming “our application” means motorcycle audio.

Is there a base curve / shape you look to set via RTA before fine-tuning to your ear?
Originally Posted by Tailwind
To me "flat" sort of means that there are no gaping holes between freq bands and no huge spikes between bands. Fixing that will essentially create a "flat" RTA. From that point u can gradually shape the curve to ur liking and the capability of your system.

Hopefully this discussion continues as there is some pretty good feedback that can result from the RTA concept.

T
yeah, I think that your comment is spot on. The thing is that the curve is never going to be perfect and you can drive yourself crazy trying to get it to be (for those into home theater it's not unlike trying to calibrate your projector or screen).

I've never used an RTA for a bike but I've used them lots in setting up theaters and cars. I can't see the setup process for those environments being necessary for use on a bike but then again DSPs were not available for bikes (or cars) as they are now so things do change. Maybe the thing for me to do is to try a tuning a bike audio setup with a DSP using an RTA, pink noise generator, SPL meter, and accounting for delay.

At the end of the day though it's going to come down to how it sounds to your ears. Still, it can be a fun exercise getting to that point.
 

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Old May 8, 2021 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by hamah
yeah, I think that your comment is spot on. The thing is that the curve is never going to be perfect and you can drive yourself crazy trying to get it to be (for those into home theater it's not unlike trying to calibrate your projector or screen).

I've never used an RTA for a bike but I've used them lots in setting up theaters and cars. I can't see the setup process for those environments being necessary for use on a bike but then again DSPs were not available for bikes (or cars) as they are now so things do change. Maybe the thing for me to do is to try a tuning a bike audio setup with a DSP using an RTA, pink noise generator, SPL meter, and accounting for delay.

At the end of the day though it's going to come down to how it sounds to your ears. Still, it can be a fun exercise getting to that point.
U nailed it brother. When it's no longer fun, find another hobby or project.
The RTA is just one of the details that take ur audio to the next level as ur ears are only so good. But audio in not an exact science in any regard.

Fun stuff!!!

T
 
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in my limited experience, I have watched these guys tweak the peaks and valleys to get as close as possible and it seems somewhat like chasing the unicorn. The only issue I have is, what sounds good to my ears on a "perfect RTA" and a non perfect is indiscernable to me. They hear the difference, but I guess after running diesel engines on a sub for many years, I don't have much hearing left.
 
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Old May 9, 2021 | 11:18 AM
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Good stuff... I have been going through my install with a fine-tooth comb, primarily to re-work the physical installation (wire-routing, connectors, etc.) as well as the tune. Learning a ton through the process, but OCD can be a bitch if not managed well.

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When it's no longer fun, find another hobby or project.
Spot-on advice right there!
 

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Josh, we will have an RTA set up at Dales place to play with and learn from.
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Originally Posted by BlackPearl#1
Josh, we will have an RTA set up at Dales place to play with and learn from.
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When are you coming back down to visit me? I don't wanna wait that long!
 
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Old May 9, 2021 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by USAproud
When are you coming back down to visit me? I don't wanna wait that long!
All of my work is up here lately but if I get down your way before the MNG I’ll let you know
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