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I’m using a DMM to get the voltage correct, I’m just wondering what HZ tone I should use for these channels, I used 1k on the midrange, is that ok for these or should I go lower?
I’m using a DMM to get the voltage correct, I’m just wondering what HZ tone I should use for these channels, I used 1k on the midrange, is that ok for these or should I go lower?
Depends on where u will set the crossovers. If ur gonna cross them at 50hz to 500hz the 1k tone won't serve its purpose. Find a tone that's down there in the hit zone. Try a 100hz and then a 300hz tone and see what the DDM voltage delta is with those tones. U prob already tried it on the 1K tone thus u can now see how those 3 dif ones impact how hard the amp will work at those various freqs especially the zone that it will actually be working in.
Just a theory brother. Maybe some of the smart guys will chime in on what range to cross those specific speakers and also what tone they used to keep them healthy yet still pound.
Depends on where u will set the crossovers. If ur gonna cross them at 50hz to 500hz the 1k tone won't serve its purpose. Find a tone that's down there in the hit zone. Try a 100hz and then a 300hz tone and see what the DDM voltage delta is with those tones. U prob already tried it on the 1K tone thus u can now see how those 3 dif ones impact how hard the amp will work at those various freqs especially the zone that it will actually be working in.
Just a theory brother. Maybe some of the smart guys will chime in on what range to cross those specific speakers and also what tone they used to keep them healthy yet still pound.
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I wasn’t able to get to the DMM tonight, I had to set them by ear the old fashioned way so I have it turned down through the DSP to be safe until I can. Still sounds great they hit low and hard.
Im thinking I’ll be band passing them 60??hz-250hz, something like that. That’s where my mids come in. So far it sounds great just has trouble keeping up with the highs. But obviously that’s to be expected with 4 horns and 4 mids
Only pics I took today, wirings since been cleaned up, will end up under the false floor once I cut it to fit around the ring
EDIT: forgot to mention the INSANE rattle I am chasing lol. Short of taking the fender off I can’t find it. Gonna do some more digging tomorrow to stifle it.
Im thinking I’ll be band passing them 60??hz-250hz, something like that. That’s where my mids come in. So far it sounds great just has trouble keeping up with the highs. But obviously that’s to be expected with 4 horns and 4 mids[/QUOTE]
I asked Chris with GBS about setting the x-overs and gains for these speakers and he recommended a -12db slope at 45hz on the low end and cutting the high end off at 500. He also recommended running at least 500W to each speaker and closer to 600W would be better. Depending how much juice you are giving them I would probably wouldn't go under 60Hz until they have some good break in time then work down toward 50 or 45 Hz.
Im thinking I’ll be band passing them 60??hz-250hz, something like that. That’s where my mids come in. So far it sounds great just has trouble keeping up with the highs. But obviously that’s to be expected with 4 horns and 4 mids
I asked Chris with GBS about setting the x-overs and gains for these speakers and he recommended a -12db slope at 45hz on the low end and cutting the high end off at 500. He also recommended running at least 500W to each speaker and closer to 600W would be better. Depending how much juice you are giving them I would probably wouldn't go under 60Hz until they have some good break in time then work down toward 50 or 45 Hz.[/QUOTE]
I’ve been told he same, just worried about going so much higher than the manufacturer specs since I am an amateur lol.
also what is considered a good break in time for speakers?
So not that I’m disappointed in the speaker bc alone it’s great. but I think I would have been better off with tens.
granted I don’t believe I’m getting the most of the Sv200Ls that I can yet, Im pretty sure I SEVERELY underestimated how much power is needed to have the mid bass keep up with 4 PA 6.5s and 4 horns. Rookie mistake I know I know. I wish I had seen the ten inch rear spacer ring before the 8s.
I have the front mspro65s on channel one and the rear set on channel two, from what I can tell the dsr1 only lets you set a crossover for the pair. So as of now I have them bandpassed 110hz-3khz. The EQ lets you seperate the sides so I mildly boosted (.5db-1db) the lower frequencies, and cut out some of the higher on the rear set while using the trim to lower the gain a touch as well. Seems to be a better balance now but definitely needs some more fine tuning.
any advice or input is appreciated. Can’t say enough about the advice and knowledge I’ve gained lurking this forum for a long time
So not that I’m disappointed in the speaker bc alone it’s great. but I think I would have been better off with tens.
granted I don’t believe I’m getting the most of the Sv200Ls that I can yet, Im pretty sure I SEVERELY underestimated how much power is needed to have the mid bass keep up with 4 PA 6.5s and 4 horns. Rookie mistake I know I know. I wish I had seen the ten inch rear spacer ring before the 8s.
I have the front mspro65s on channel one and the rear set on channel two, from what I can tell the dsr1 only lets you set a crossover for the pair. So as of now I have them bandpassed 110hz-3khz. The EQ lets you seperate the sides so I mildly boosted (.5db-1db) the lower frequencies, and cut out some of the higher on the rear set while using the trim to lower the gain a touch as well. Seems to be a better balance now but definitely needs some more fine tuning.
any advice or input is appreciated. Can’t say enough about the advice and knowledge I’ve gained lurking this forum for a long time
let me guess your front stage are louder then the 8" and you can barely hear the bass from it. Maybe swap out the 6.5 PA and go with a coaxial speakers up front
let me guess your front stage are louder then the 8" and you can barely hear the bass from it. Maybe swap out the 6.5 PA and go with a coaxial speakers up front
lol no need to guess brother that’s what I said. I like the the way the whole system plays on the highway crisp and clear at 75+ so I’m to keep them.
I know the low end gets lost at speed And I’m not expecting to hear the bag speakers on the highway so I’m not going to sacrifice that I’m order to occasionally hear the 8s Just was hoping for a little more low end while I’m riding backroads.
I have Ch 3+4 of a 2400.4 going to mid bass so Potentially could have 600 watts per bag going to a pair of 8ohm tens
and thus begins my journey looking for the unicorn at the end of the rainbow.
lol no need to guess brother that’s what I said. I like the the way the whole system plays on the highway crisp and clear at 75+ so I’m to keep them.
I know the low end gets lost at speed And I’m not expecting to hear the bag speakers on the highway so I’m not going to sacrifice that I’m order to occasionally hear the 8s Just was hoping for a little more low end while I’m riding backroads.
I have Ch 3+4 of a 2400.4 going to mid bass so Potentially could have 600 watts per bag going to a pair of 8ohm tens
and thus begins my journey looking for the unicorn at the end of the rainbow.
I have 4 200L’s in the bags that I had powered by a Soundigital 2400.4 dsp set on band pass 60-500 it sounded good. The 2400 was a 4ohm I was already using channels 1-2 for something else and bridged 3-4 for the 4 200L’s so it was 1200 watts between the 4 but they needed more.
I decided to pull that out and install a Soundigital 3000.1 1ohm I will have the new setup done by this weekend I will let you know how it turns out. Good luck finding that unicorn it’s been years and I still ain’t caught him yet.
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