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Old Feb 28, 2013 | 10:37 AM
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Okay I will try to keep this short. There is so much knowledge here that I have to ask an opinion of you guys. Here is what I have: I was able to get a 500 W J&M (arc) amp along with two sets of Focal PC 165 speakers and a set of Focal PC 130 speakers for brand new, not in original boxes for $481. I know crazy cheap but the guy needed the money and I needed tunes. Based on some good conversation here I did order a set of Polk mm651s for the rear pods to probably use in lieu of the 5.25" focal speakers. I am running the HK unit ( I know I could do better aftermarket but I like the functionality and integration of other accesories with hand control). The radio does have the pre-amp 3V outputs as done by ironcross (they are awesome). I have been putting things together as winter and wife will let me (usually a challenge on both fronts!!) and taking some pics to post later along the way. The Focals are 4 ohm (both 6.5 and 5.25 speakers) and the Polk is a 2 ohm speaker. The goal is in your face with a wall of music that has good quality. My question is how would you guys wire this 6 speaker system. My thoughts were to either wire the fairing and lowers in parallel to lower my total ohms seen by the amp and then wire the rears to the rear amp channel. Or wire the fairing and lowers to the front and rear channel of the amp and then run the rear pods directly off the head unit. If I run the front four in parallel then I will have to modify the wire harnesses that my friend gave me with the amp. I still think I will make the lowers detachable with the packard delphi plug but I will have to think of a different way to wire this should I go with option number one. Just curious what your thoughts are?
 
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Old Feb 28, 2013 | 11:22 AM
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Ah, Ya kind of a SMOKIN' deal!! Go with your first thoughts of wiring the fronts ( PC165's) parallel to get down to the 2 Ohm rating on the front two channels of the amp. The either use the Focal 5.25's in the rear or go with The Polk's you have in mind. Either speaker is going to give about the same DB once cranked up as they are so confined with the tiny little box that they are in. Keeping the same brand, and series in that brand will also keep the same sound coming at you. Different brands have different sounds, changing them up can some times do more harm than good.

Good Luck!
 
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Old Feb 28, 2013 | 12:31 PM
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Dude.. did you have to kill the guy or just hit him in the head to get this? Geez!

Nice setup and nice find!.

I agree with DF also.. Keep your 165s together in your face and ALL speakers; wrap the fairings speakers with polyfil, line the lower pods with polyfil, and line the rear pods with poyfil. It does a great job of tightening up sloppy bass response at lower frequencies on these smaller speakers.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2013 | 12:49 PM
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Is your tour pack on all the time or do you remove it alot of the time? I have mine off 90% of the time so I'm using all 4 channels up front and running rears off of the head unit. I feel that way is best for me, its a little easier on the amp and should give me a little louder in the front with increased peak output from the amp. Rears will not be as loud, but I don't care I don't sit in back.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2013 | 01:14 PM
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Yea I know screaming deal and I did not hurt or blackmail anyone either............. Unfortuantely the guy just lost his job and is moving out of WI. Is not going to be riding so he sold his brand new bike and well I ended up getting some of the accessories. I actually tried to give him more but I had done him a few favors through work so I guess he felt like he was being good to me. So you guys so far would keep everything wired through the amp. That was my first choice. Just means I will have to do some wiring and connector changes. Already got the polyfill from Hobby so I should be good to go there. Brent - no I don't plan on removing the tour pak much even riding solo. I had this on my RKC and it was nice but I am getting to be an old man now and messing with on and off just got old for me. I did make a nice Deutch connector that worked great for the lights.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2013 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Meist21
So you guys so far would keep everything wired through the amp.
absolutely so...
 
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Old Feb 28, 2013 | 05:41 PM
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I am curious what kind of connectors or how do you guys splice into your + and - . Do you guys just use a splice connector and run the extra wire or what. I am not a big fan of these and have used them in the past where they tend to work themselves loose.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2013 | 05:58 PM
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I've used butt connectors for years without issue. The key is having the correct crimp tool to use with them. This is a good one. IMO soldering is a PITA and really not worth it. A cold solder joint will come apart just as fast as an incorrectly crimp butt connector will.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2013 | 08:57 PM
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Yea those are nice. You can tell as the good crimpers just "feel" more solid. Do you think if I tapped right at my first speaker connection with a double spade connector that would work? Or do I have to splice into the wire before I hit the first speaker?
 
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Old Mar 1, 2013 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Meist21
Do you think if I tapped right at my first speaker connection with a double spade connector that would work? Or do I have to splice into the wire before I hit the first speaker?
hmm.. i'm lost.. tap into the first speaker to do what? Are you talking about running your second set of wires to your lowers? If so, the wire that comes out of the amp for your + speaker connection (we'll use left for example), properly crimp a blue butt connector on it. Now your wires that you'll run to each speaker, take the 2 positives (1 for each left speaker) and strip the ends back about 1/4" and twist them together tightly. Slip them into the other end of that butt connector and crimp it properly. Follow that for the remaining speaker wires.
 
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