Self-Diagnostics for Harman Kardon radios
Stage I
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1
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From: Milwaukee
B2017 Code
How do you figure out which speaker is shorting out due to ground? I have the HogTune 4way amp and all was fine until the other day. Looks radio is working, just no sound from speakers?
Novice
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 22
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From: Allentown, Pa
A big Thanks to HDpingman for this post. Here is what I got after test.
B2017 FL Speaker Open, B2023 RR Speaker short to 12v, B2022 RR Speaker short to gnd
B 2021 RL speaker open, B 2020 RR Speaker Shorted. I'm not sure what this all means and I'm open to any and all ideas.
2010 FLHTK
B2017 FL Speaker Open, B2023 RR Speaker short to 12v, B2022 RR Speaker short to gnd
B 2021 RL speaker open, B 2020 RR Speaker Shorted. I'm not sure what this all means and I'm open to any and all ideas.
2010 FLHTK
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From: East of the Sun, West of the Moon
A big Thanks to HDpingman for this post. Here is what I got after test.
B2017 FL Speaker Open, B2023 RR Speaker short to 12v, B2022 RR Speaker short to gnd
B 2021 RL speaker open, B 2020 RR Speaker Shorted. I'm not sure what this all means and I'm open to any and all ideas.
2010 FLHTK
B2017 FL Speaker Open, B2023 RR Speaker short to 12v, B2022 RR Speaker short to gnd
B 2021 RL speaker open, B 2020 RR Speaker Shorted. I'm not sure what this all means and I'm open to any and all ideas.
2010 FLHTK
Okay....so I got my HK head unit back from Iron Cross tonight and installed it along with the HDPDPLUS (that I directly wired into the 35 pin plug from the NUOH!) and XM modules. I reconnected the SS PN4.520D and viola!- music. Heck, even my presets from last year when I had it on the bike were still in place! HOWEVER, the "mode" switch doesn't scroll through the sources or change channels, though it DOES seem to change the FM channel by sending the radio into scan mode (it didn't want to actually go into "preset scan" properly). I ran the diagnostic for any codes, and all I have is the open speaker codes, which I should since I'm running the speakers from the amp. However, switching the ignition from "IGN" to "ACC" WILL scroll through each source. I am lost!!
My left hand button (audio/ Vol +/-) seems to work fine. The right hand switch isn't doing it's job from what I can tell, and I checked the pins and connector for proper seating. I'm not sure if it's the radio or not, but fact that switching the ignition switch between "IGN" and "ACC" ends up rotating through my sources (each turn of the switch moves to the next source) seems to indicate there MIGHT be something amiss in the old HK. Any ideas?
On a good note, when I did manage to land the unit on "AUX", the Iron Cross Bluetooth mod worked great (if you do this, look for "BT-Speaker" in your list of chocies on your device), and of course the preamps feeding the SS amp make the sound so much better, so kudos to Tony and company at Iron Cross on the two mods I just had them do. Even the factory red color seems to match my gauges well, so that's good. Now if only I could use the "Mode" switch to move through the sources/channels (on either AM/FM/WB or XM)...
My left hand button (audio/ Vol +/-) seems to work fine. The right hand switch isn't doing it's job from what I can tell, and I checked the pins and connector for proper seating. I'm not sure if it's the radio or not, but fact that switching the ignition switch between "IGN" and "ACC" ends up rotating through my sources (each turn of the switch moves to the next source) seems to indicate there MIGHT be something amiss in the old HK. Any ideas?
On a good note, when I did manage to land the unit on "AUX", the Iron Cross Bluetooth mod worked great (if you do this, look for "BT-Speaker" in your list of chocies on your device), and of course the preamps feeding the SS amp make the sound so much better, so kudos to Tony and company at Iron Cross on the two mods I just had them do. Even the factory red color seems to match my gauges well, so that's good. Now if only I could use the "Mode" switch to move through the sources/channels (on either AM/FM/WB or XM)...
Stage II
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 2
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From: South Mills Nc
Help with HK radio on 2009 Harley Ultra Classic Trike
I followed some of the instructions on this thread to check the HK CB diagnostics on our trike.
When the menu comes up and the first option should read Diag Test - it does not - it reads Defaults. I pushed SK 1 for Defaults and it just returns to the channel the radio was on.
Any suggestions?
Thanks Ed
When the menu comes up and the first option should read Diag Test - it does not - it reads Defaults. I pushed SK 1 for Defaults and it just returns to the channel the radio was on.
Any suggestions?
Thanks Ed
3rd Gear
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 7
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From: Germany
Code B2017 FL Speaker Open
Hi all,
I would like to thank Harleypingman for sharing this Self-Diagnostic manual. I will check first of all if there is really a problem with the speaker, but I had the same issues, that the radio started to cut off during normal operation. Switching off and on again solved at least in the beginning the problem. But now nothing is helping anymore, the display shows normal operation but no sound, either from CD or radio. I read now the complete threat and saw several entries about Code B2017 FL Speaker Open. I have the same error code.
My question: is it worth to get the radio repaired by Iron Cross Audio or should I go for a new one? My problem is, living in Europe / Germany and sending the unit over to the States, this costs already a lot, getting it repaired (if possible) and shipping back to me, would cost me nearly the same by buying a new unit. Also there is a year warranty on the service provided, but no guaranty that solves my problem for long term. Another option would be, getting these Retro-Radio adapters and purchasing an aftermarket-radio. I cant get a complete set from USA since warranty questions would create more problems.
I know, this is in the end my decision, but your opinion would be much appreciated.
I would like to thank Harleypingman for sharing this Self-Diagnostic manual. I will check first of all if there is really a problem with the speaker, but I had the same issues, that the radio started to cut off during normal operation. Switching off and on again solved at least in the beginning the problem. But now nothing is helping anymore, the display shows normal operation but no sound, either from CD or radio. I read now the complete threat and saw several entries about Code B2017 FL Speaker Open. I have the same error code.
My question: is it worth to get the radio repaired by Iron Cross Audio or should I go for a new one? My problem is, living in Europe / Germany and sending the unit over to the States, this costs already a lot, getting it repaired (if possible) and shipping back to me, would cost me nearly the same by buying a new unit. Also there is a year warranty on the service provided, but no guaranty that solves my problem for long term. Another option would be, getting these Retro-Radio adapters and purchasing an aftermarket-radio. I cant get a complete set from USA since warranty questions would create more problems.
I know, this is in the end my decision, but your opinion would be much appreciated.
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Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 14,670
Likes: 139
From: East of the Sun, West of the Moon
Hi all,
I would like to thank Harleypingman for sharing this Self-Diagnostic manual. I will check first of all if there is really a problem with the speaker, but I had the same issues, that the radio started to cut off during normal operation. Switching off and on again solved at least in the beginning the problem. But now nothing is helping anymore, the display shows normal operation but no sound, either from CD or radio. I read now the complete threat and saw several entries about Code B2017 FL Speaker Open. I have the same error code.
My question: is it worth to get the radio repaired by Iron Cross Audio or should I go for a new one? My problem is, living in Europe / Germany and sending the unit over to the States, this costs already a lot, getting it repaired (if possible) and shipping back to me, would cost me nearly the same by buying a new unit. Also there is a year warranty on the service provided, but no guaranty that solves my problem for long term. Another option would be, getting these Retro-Radio adapters and purchasing an aftermarket-radio. I cant get a complete set from USA since warranty questions would create more problems.
I know, this is in the end my decision, but your opinion would be much appreciated.
I would like to thank Harleypingman for sharing this Self-Diagnostic manual. I will check first of all if there is really a problem with the speaker, but I had the same issues, that the radio started to cut off during normal operation. Switching off and on again solved at least in the beginning the problem. But now nothing is helping anymore, the display shows normal operation but no sound, either from CD or radio. I read now the complete threat and saw several entries about Code B2017 FL Speaker Open. I have the same error code.
My question: is it worth to get the radio repaired by Iron Cross Audio or should I go for a new one? My problem is, living in Europe / Germany and sending the unit over to the States, this costs already a lot, getting it repaired (if possible) and shipping back to me, would cost me nearly the same by buying a new unit. Also there is a year warranty on the service provided, but no guaranty that solves my problem for long term. Another option would be, getting these Retro-Radio adapters and purchasing an aftermarket-radio. I cant get a complete set from USA since warranty questions would create more problems.
I know, this is in the end my decision, but your opinion would be much appreciated.
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Joined: Nov 2007
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From: East of the Sun, West of the Moon
Then I would clear the codes
swap front left speaker with front right speaker
see if the code comes back.
If it does and it still shows FL Speaker Open then it's your head unit that has a problem
If it does and it now shows FR Speaker Open then it's the speaker itself that is bad.
swap front left speaker with front right speaker
see if the code comes back.
If it does and it still shows FL Speaker Open then it's your head unit that has a problem
If it does and it now shows FR Speaker Open then it's the speaker itself that is bad.