Kenwood KMR-D558BT v. Sony MEX-M70BT
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Kenwood KMR-D558BT v. Sony MEX-M70BT
I'm re-doing my audio and need to pick a head unit. I'm definitely going w/ marine (because) and am deciding between a Kenwood KMR-D558BT and a Sony MEX-M70BT -- unless the forum talks me out of both. I wonder if anyone can offer comments.
These HUs are $150 and $200, respectively at Crutchfield. The specs appear to be quite similar (to me, a novice), although RMS output is KMR = 22 Sony = 14. Given the amp, I think ouput makes no difference. Is this correct?
I want CD and Bluetooth. Will almost always listen to Pandora. Never use radios and don't care about the phone.
I like the look of the KMR best.
The other system pieces are Biketronics 2180 amp and Focal PC 165. I'll probably always run just two speakers. I've BT's multi-mfger adaptor.
What you all think?
Thanks for your time.
These HUs are $150 and $200, respectively at Crutchfield. The specs appear to be quite similar (to me, a novice), although RMS output is KMR = 22 Sony = 14. Given the amp, I think ouput makes no difference. Is this correct?
I want CD and Bluetooth. Will almost always listen to Pandora. Never use radios and don't care about the phone.
I like the look of the KMR best.
The other system pieces are Biketronics 2180 amp and Focal PC 165. I'll probably always run just two speakers. I've BT's multi-mfger adaptor.
What you all think?
Thanks for your time.
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I'd use the Biketronics 7.1's versus the Focals....Myself, unless you get into the K2 Focals, they don't sound very good.
Now if you are stuck on the Focal name, I'd upgrade to the K2 series.
The Rockford 300/2 is WAY cheaper than the 2180 also,........and probably won't be able to tell the difference.
And,....marine grade head unit.............pffft......marketing rhetoric !!
Now if you are stuck on the Focal name, I'd upgrade to the K2 series.
The Rockford 300/2 is WAY cheaper than the 2180 also,........and probably won't be able to tell the difference.
And,....marine grade head unit.............pffft......marketing rhetoric !!
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The greater the voltage on the pre-outs, the stronger the signal to the amp. Less distortion at higher volume and easier to set gains, which you won't have to worry about with the 2180.
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Higher pre-amp voltage is used to counter signal to noise ratio.
The higher the voltage the greater the percentage of signal to "noise"
Noise on pre-amp signals is usually picked up by inductive interference generated by other electronic systems around the pre-amp cables. The longer the cable run is, the greater the chance for the inclusion of noise. This is particularly present in car head units where the run is to the trunk, and there are alot of electronic components capable of generating interference.
In the case of most bike mounted amps, the amp is mounted on or near the radio with a very short cable run and a small amount of electronic components capable of generating noise. As long as a quality RCA cable is used, there will be almost no difference between a pre-amp signal at 2v as compared to a higher voltage signal. Amps in the bags may benefit from a slightly higher voltage because of the longer run.
It is true that a higher voltage signal will allow to gains on an amp to be set lower, but if the signal to the amp is equal (as far as noise is concerned), increasing the gain on the amp will have no detrimental affect on the audio output.
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ICA -- thanks. All of this is going in my B-wing. Do you sell high quality super short RCA cables?
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I'm re-doing my audio and need to pick a head unit. I'm definitely going w/ marine (because) and am deciding between a Kenwood KMR-D558BT and a Sony MEX-M70BT -- unless the forum talks me out of both. I wonder if anyone can offer comments.
These HUs are $150 and $200, respectively at Crutchfield. The specs appear to be quite similar (to me, a novice), although RMS output is KMR = 22 Sony = 14. Given the amp, I think ouput makes no difference. Is this correct?
I want CD and Bluetooth. Will almost always listen to Pandora. Never use radios and don't care about the phone.
I like the look of the KMR best.
The other system pieces are Biketronics 2180 amp and Focal PC 165. I'll probably always run just two speakers. I've BT's multi-mfger adaptor.
What you all think?
Thanks for your time.
These HUs are $150 and $200, respectively at Crutchfield. The specs appear to be quite similar (to me, a novice), although RMS output is KMR = 22 Sony = 14. Given the amp, I think ouput makes no difference. Is this correct?
I want CD and Bluetooth. Will almost always listen to Pandora. Never use radios and don't care about the phone.
I like the look of the KMR best.
The other system pieces are Biketronics 2180 amp and Focal PC 165. I'll probably always run just two speakers. I've BT's multi-mfger adaptor.
What you all think?
Thanks for your time.
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I'm re-doing my audio and need to pick a head unit. I'm definitely going w/ marine (because) and am deciding between a Kenwood KMR-D558BT and a Sony MEX-M70BT -- unless the forum talks me out of both. I wonder if anyone can offer comments.
These HUs are $150 and $200, respectively at Crutchfield. The specs appear to be quite similar (to me, a novice), although RMS output is KMR = 22 Sony = 14. Given the amp, I think ouput makes no difference. Is this correct?
I want CD and Bluetooth. Will almost always listen to Pandora. Never use radios and don't care about the phone.
I like the look of the KMR best.
The other system pieces are Biketronics 2180 amp and Focal PC 165. I'll probably always run just two speakers. I've BT's multi-mfger adaptor.
What you all think?
Thanks for your time.
These HUs are $150 and $200, respectively at Crutchfield. The specs appear to be quite similar (to me, a novice), although RMS output is KMR = 22 Sony = 14. Given the amp, I think ouput makes no difference. Is this correct?
I want CD and Bluetooth. Will almost always listen to Pandora. Never use radios and don't care about the phone.
I like the look of the KMR best.
The other system pieces are Biketronics 2180 amp and Focal PC 165. I'll probably always run just two speakers. I've BT's multi-mfger adaptor.
What you all think?
Thanks for your time.
Like you, I'm really interested in getting Pandora and the rest of my music on the bike. It'll also be nice to get the turn by turn navigation from my phone over the speakers for those new places I go....
I should receive it and have it installed by late next week.....