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Joined: Apr 2019
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From: Beaumont Tx
I have been using ech20 and Uber rinseless for about 2 years now since eaglefan1 recommended it. I have had good luck with both of them. IMO the ech20 is better at leaving a protectant behind since it does has Sio2 in it. I am currently waiting on my supply to run empty so I can try the P&S dream or the Uber rinseless in blue because it has sio2 in it.
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Joined: Jun 2019
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From: SE Michigan
I took the question to a seasoned detailing professional: What do you think about folks using lemon pledge on motorcycles.
I'll be honest, I expect him to throw shade. I felt like he was fair.
He's seen people use it before and didn't see a problem. When you apply it to a clean surface and give it a light buff, it leaves a shiny wet look. Very easy to apply and it looks great.
There are some lubricants in the ingredients, but they're not formulated for a clear coat. They are formulated for a softer finish on wood and to leave a thin oily coating. As well, it won't last long on a clear coat. It may penetrate and condition a wood surface, but it simply sits as a 'coating' on the clear coat of a bike. It will evaporate fairly quickly, but it's easy to reapply. The finish can be glossy and wet looking, because it is 'wet' with an oily film. Unlike a good sealant or coating, Lemon Pledge will attract dirt and it does nothing to protect the clear coat. If you use it as a QD for bike that is already basically clean, there isn't much risk. If you use it as a waterless wash to take off dust, dirt, and bugs, you are going to damage your clear coat.
Not looking to bag on anyone who uses it. A lot of folks do. I'm honestly just trying to help. You can use a less expensive product, made for detailing and waterless washing, and get way better results.
I'll be honest, I expect him to throw shade. I felt like he was fair.
He's seen people use it before and didn't see a problem. When you apply it to a clean surface and give it a light buff, it leaves a shiny wet look. Very easy to apply and it looks great.
There are some lubricants in the ingredients, but they're not formulated for a clear coat. They are formulated for a softer finish on wood and to leave a thin oily coating. As well, it won't last long on a clear coat. It may penetrate and condition a wood surface, but it simply sits as a 'coating' on the clear coat of a bike. It will evaporate fairly quickly, but it's easy to reapply. The finish can be glossy and wet looking, because it is 'wet' with an oily film. Unlike a good sealant or coating, Lemon Pledge will attract dirt and it does nothing to protect the clear coat. If you use it as a QD for bike that is already basically clean, there isn't much risk. If you use it as a waterless wash to take off dust, dirt, and bugs, you are going to damage your clear coat.
Not looking to bag on anyone who uses it. A lot of folks do. I'm honestly just trying to help. You can use a less expensive product, made for detailing and waterless washing, and get way better results.
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Joined: Aug 2015
Posts: 3,425
Likes: 1,418
From: pensacola fl
I took the question to a seasoned detailing professional: What do you think about folks using lemon pledge on motorcycles.
I'll be honest, I expect him to throw shade. I felt like he was fair.
He's seen people use it before and didn't see a problem. When you apply it to a clean surface and give it a light buff, it leaves a shiny wet look. Very easy to apply and it looks great.
There are some lubricants in the ingredients, but they're not formulated for a clear coat. They are formulated for a softer finish on wood and to leave a thin oily coating. As well, it won't last long on a clear coat. It may penetrate and condition a wood surface, but it simply sits as a 'coating' on the clear coat of a bike. It will evaporate fairly quickly, but it's easy to reapply. The finish can be glossy and wet looking, because it is 'wet' with an oily film. Unlike a good sealant or coating, Lemon Pledge will attract dirt and it does nothing to protect the clear coat. If you use it as a QD for bike that is already basically clean, there isn't much risk. If you use it as a waterless wash to take off dust, dirt, and bugs, you are going to damage your clear coat.
Not looking to bag on anyone who uses it. A lot of folks do. I'm honestly just trying to help. You can use a less expensive product, made for detailing and waterless washing, and get way better results.
I'll be honest, I expect him to throw shade. I felt like he was fair.
He's seen people use it before and didn't see a problem. When you apply it to a clean surface and give it a light buff, it leaves a shiny wet look. Very easy to apply and it looks great.
There are some lubricants in the ingredients, but they're not formulated for a clear coat. They are formulated for a softer finish on wood and to leave a thin oily coating. As well, it won't last long on a clear coat. It may penetrate and condition a wood surface, but it simply sits as a 'coating' on the clear coat of a bike. It will evaporate fairly quickly, but it's easy to reapply. The finish can be glossy and wet looking, because it is 'wet' with an oily film. Unlike a good sealant or coating, Lemon Pledge will attract dirt and it does nothing to protect the clear coat. If you use it as a QD for bike that is already basically clean, there isn't much risk. If you use it as a waterless wash to take off dust, dirt, and bugs, you are going to damage your clear coat.
Not looking to bag on anyone who uses it. A lot of folks do. I'm honestly just trying to help. You can use a less expensive product, made for detailing and waterless washing, and get way better results.
So if Pledge is good for the bike then they should foam cannon all of their wood furniture.
Next we will hear Pledge is all I use and the bike looks like it just left the showroom statement. Whats the saying, "Dont know a squirrel from a swirl", something like that.
It makes no difference to me. I do get a great laugh out of it every single time though
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Joined: Apr 2021
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From: The boonies of northern New England
Edit to add: This isn't a quick detailer, but an excellent soap for washing the bike is Gyeon, which has Sio2 in it as well. Also recommended to me by eaglefan. You can't go wrong with anything he recommends.
Last edited by 603Hog; Oct 22, 2021 at 09:10 AM.
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From: In a house
Originally Posted by 603Hog
You can't go wrong with anything he recommends.
My bike loves his recommendations, my wallet not so much. Easy to get addicted to this for sure.
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Joined: Aug 2015
Posts: 3,425
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From: pensacola fl
The Polish Angel products I have used have been awesome and so easy to use. Haven't tried their detailer though. High Gloss and Cosmic V2 is a stunning combo
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Joined: Apr 2021
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From: The boonies of northern New England
Glad you guys like the stuff. Once you get the dilution dialed in on Echo2 it works really well. Great on coated vehicles. I got some of CarPro's new compound to try out, just need a test vehicle.
The Polish Angel products I have used have been awesome and so easy to use. Haven't tried their detailer though. High Gloss and Cosmic V2 is a stunning combo
The Polish Angel products I have used have been awesome and so easy to use. Haven't tried their detailer though. High Gloss and Cosmic V2 is a stunning combo
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From: pensacola fl
I have used house water and echo2 and it took a while to figure out the ratio. To much product it will splotch on the paint, comes off with a MF. DI water is the "easiest" way to use it, more consistent and less work.
I have some new detail spray coming Wednesday to try. Ill report back after a couple uses.
Saturday the owner brought the Demon back over to get cleaned up for a car show that morning. The brakes on this car are massive, but the wheels are coated and so easy to clean. No pressure washer, just a hose and 95% of the brake dust came off. Dam I love coated wheels! The paint was washed with DR Beasleys matte paint wash. Worked well, not a lot of suds but the mitt glided across the paint. As much of a PIA that car was to do because of the color, It might be my favorite one I have done
I have some new detail spray coming Wednesday to try. Ill report back after a couple uses.
Saturday the owner brought the Demon back over to get cleaned up for a car show that morning. The brakes on this car are massive, but the wheels are coated and so easy to clean. No pressure washer, just a hose and 95% of the brake dust came off. Dam I love coated wheels! The paint was washed with DR Beasleys matte paint wash. Worked well, not a lot of suds but the mitt glided across the paint. As much of a PIA that car was to do because of the color, It might be my favorite one I have done