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Old May 10, 2010 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by tlmitchell
I'm usually one to favor correction vs trying to hide with glaze. But a filler is about the only thing it works on this soft CC.

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If the CC on the Vivid Black is really that soft I might suggest giving Glare Professional Polish a try.
"GLARE PROFESSIONAL POLISH will bond to your vehicle’s paint through a covalent chemical bond"
Glare should actually bond with your CC and make it harder and stronger. It has saved my a$$ quite a few times.
It has a special plcae on my detailing shelf and is my go-to product for correcting problem spots in clear coat.
I like the stuff and I have had excellent results with it. It might be exactly what you need!
It's worth giving it a try and let us know your results.

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Old May 10, 2010 | 09:47 PM
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Would you use the Glare Pro Polish as a LSP? After using Meg's 105/205?
 
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Old May 11, 2010 | 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by 103ci07nightrain
Would you use the Glare Pro Polish as a LSP? After using Meg's 105/205?
The M105/M205 combo is used to polish you paint before an LSP.
Always use the least aggressive method first.
For paint correction, you may find on soft CC, that M205 is all you need.

Glare is a different animal. You may find that you can use Glare as a polish and sealant/LSP.
For paint correction rub Glare into paint (like a rubbing compound) until is disappears.
Repeat until you obtain desired results. It only takes a dime size amount.
This is the step that creates the covalent chemical bond to your finish.
From what I understand Glare and your CC/paint meld together to become one.
Final step apply Glare as you would a wax layer on top of the paint, let dry, wipe off.
Glare may help strengthen the soft Clear Coat on the Vivid Black and make it more durable.
 
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Old May 11, 2010 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Merlin
If the CC on the Vivid Black is really that soft I might suggest giving Glare Professional Polish a try.
"GLARE PROFESSIONAL POLISH will bond to your vehicle’s paint through a covalent chemical bond"
Glare should actually bond with your CC and make it harder and stronger. It has saved my a$$ quite a few times.
It has a special plcae on my detailing shelf and is my go-to product for correcting problem spots in clear coat.
I like the stuff and I have had excellent results with it. It might be exactly what you need!
It's worth giving it a try and let us know your results.

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Thanks for the links, interesting reading. Sounds like it's definitely worth a try. One more product in the detailing cabinet couldn't hurt. Funny I've never seen a peep about Glare on any of the detailing Forums I'm on. (a LOT!).

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Old May 11, 2010 | 11:44 AM
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The companies hype is a little much for me and I'm not buying all their claims but the stuff works.

"From what I was told the product actually softens and dissolves the edges of the micro-fine edges of scratches (swirl marks, etc) and fills in the gaps with a chemical soup mix of "dissolved clear coat, paint and itself" therefor re-constutiting a smoother surface which reduces the optical reflection of "sharp edges scratches and improves overall reflection of a smooth surface."

Every time you polish paint you remove more of the protective clear coat. From what I understand Glare adds to your CC. A product that does a "permanent" correction without "temporary" fillers and the need to polish and remove paint is a good thing.
 
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Old May 12, 2010 | 06:07 AM
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The Glare products sound great for us Vivid black owners. I was reading over on the autogeek forums and they didnt seem to like it too much, said it was plastic looking and not that shinny But they dont sell it either. So Merlin on a scale of 1 to 10 how do you rate this stuff? Worth the money or are there better products out there? I know my paint looks like hell, I've been using Mothers 3 stage process since it was new ( per wax cleaner, glaze, and carnuba wax) and I'm sick of the way it looks.
 
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Old May 12, 2010 | 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by dietdewboy
on a scale of 1 to 10 how do you rate this stuff? Worth the money or are there better products out there? I know my paint looks like hell...I'm sick of the way it looks.
Gloss maybe a 7 or 8. Correction ability 10, Ease of use 8, Longevity 10
There are many "different" products out there from fine Carnauba's to very shiny synthetics.
Glare has its place. That's all I ever used on my bikes. It looks pretty darn good and it lasts.
Please give me a little more detail than "my paint looks like hell...I'm sick of the way it looks".
Does it have swirls and fine scratches that you can see in direct sunlight?
Is it dull and flat? Can you post a pic? I'll be glad to help.
 
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Old May 12, 2010 | 07:29 AM
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Thumbs up wax for black

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Old May 12, 2010 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Merlin
Gloss maybe a 7 or 8. Correction ability 10, Ease of use 8, Longevity 10
There are many "different" products out there from fine Carnauba's to very shiny synthetics.
Glare has its place. That's all I ever used on my bikes. It looks pretty darn good and it lasts.
Please give me a little more detail than "my paint looks like hell...I'm sick of the way it looks".
Does it have swirls and fine scratches that you can see in direct sunlight?
Is it dull and flat? Can you post a pic? I'll be glad to help.
Thanks for the input if you use it on yours that says something to me.
My bike has fine scratches, swirl marks. I removed the factory 2-up seat and have a solo on it now and there are some flat areas under the rear factory seat that I've had to cover with a fender bib. I'm at my wits end with this paint, I've babied it since day 1, this is my second vivid black harley.

I've been looking at a Griots 6" polisher and using 4" pads on it to try to fix this mess. I will post photos when the sun comes back out, my be a day or 2
thank you
 
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Old May 12, 2010 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by dietdewboy
I've been looking at a Griots 6" polisher and using 4" pads on it to try to fix this mess. I will post photos when the sun comes back out, my be a day or 2
thank you
You may wish look at the Griots 3" Random Orbital Buffer if it just for the bike.
 
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