Hi everybody! I recently purchased a 2012 Wide Glide with 2100 miles. The previous owner had installed Python slip-on mufflers. Needless to say,I'm not a fan of the tone. I found the Fat Cat exhaust by D&D Exhaust that I really like. I'm also gonna open up the air-intake with an open-style filter. The dealership said I'm gonna need an EFI tuner because im changing from stock to greater performance...I don't have a problem doing so. Now,my question is this...is Screaming Eagle pro tuner the way to go,or should I look into Power Commander or some other unit? Plus,I'm not the most computer savvy guy in the world,so is a tuner something anyone with a laptop can install? Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!! Thanks

 

Hey Chuck, here is a Overview of EFI options you may find helpful.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/ignit...uning-etc.html

Devin and Kevin(DK) use the Power Vision on their Bikes, they are extremely satisfied with their Power Vision.
The Power Vision is delivered to you with a Custom Map, for Your Bike, already installed in it. You can plug it in, load the new tune into your bike, unplug it, and be riding with the New Tune in 5 minutes. So you wouldn't have that worry.

Hope this helps you out

Kelsey

 

Depends on how deep you go. Like Kelsey from DK mentions. I believe that with a 2012 you have the option for any number of modern tuners. Many here will suggest the TTS or PV2 (Power Vision) along with the Screaming Eagle. The nice thing about those is that a professional tuner can use them in order to perform and save a dyno tune on your bike. They also each use canned (pre-made) maps that work incredibly well. I was reading one of Fuel Moto's posts and they made mention of how close their maps were when comparing some pro tunes.

The PV2 seems to be the front runner for many. I personally run the V&H FP3 and I'm a fanboy of it, it's about $100-$150 less expensive than the PV2. I like the FP3 because it's incredibly simple. Plug it in, find a map, flash the map from your Iphone or Android using bluetooth. My bike ran much, much smoother even with stock exhaust and high flow AC while I was waiting to install my exhaust. The maps are also customizable in pretty much all fields, and it has an autotune feature like the others. Pretty darned easy. But you need to look at what your end intent is to determine what's best for you.

Some people confuse the old Fuelpak which was a piggy back model with the FP3 which is a flash tuner like the Power Vision and others, as an example in the first page of DK's thread (which is a very fair one I believe), they mention the Fuelpak but that was back in 2013 prior to the FP3 which now has almost as much versatility as the other flash tuners.

But if your plans include multiple changes to the engine such as headwork, porting, dyno tune, etc. then one of the more advanced units may be more reasonable for you for the price difference.

One last thing I will mention since I just completed some engine work and you happen to post this thread within a few days of my finishing. I did add aftermarket cams, I contacted the support group via the FP3 app asking if they could help with a new map, they immediately answered to the affirmative. Once I got them the proper information on the cams (different story), they got me a new map which was again uploaded to me via the app and I'm back in business. To be fair, with the recent weather in my region I haven't been able to ride with the new map or cams yet, but still I don't know of any other modern tuner where support and uploading can be done directly through the application. The joys of firmware updating I suppose, but the number of updates to the unit even in the 6 months that I've owned it have been really cool to see.

Good luck with your choice

 

I have a power vision tuner and i highly recommend it. i done the power commander 3 route and the XIED route. dont waste your money and go powervission and you be set for any mod you do.

 

100% satisfied with my Powervision and map support from Fuel Moto.

 

Power vision 2 user here, excellent device. Lots more than just fuel and air tuning and very user friendly. Much more user friendly and easier to adjust fuel tables than the screamin eagle tuner. Also the PV2 has a speedometer calibration if you change pulleys.

 

I agree 100%

the original PV can also calibrate your speedometer for those who change their gearing or tire height.

 

can the PV be used on multiple bikes? or when i get a new bike do i need to buy a new tuner? like the screaming eagle that is married to the VIN?

 

I am using the factory ecm on my 113 big bore.
My tuner worked as a engineer for HD and helped designed the ecm. He tuned with a flash.
He said he has over 200 points/areas he can tune from.

I was skeptical but I found out he was right.
124hp 144tq
It was built for tq
If I was going to do it local I would most likely use either the tts or pv2
If I were to do a tune locally I would

 

Once you plug in the PV it gets married to your ecm so it can't be used on other bikes. But how ever I believe for a small fee fuel moto has way of unlocking the PV letting you use it on another bike.
Save your self some $$$$ and buy the PV from the getgo