Another FP3 believe
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Another FP3 believer
I'm running bassani radial sweepers and SE A/C on my 2014 fxdb. Like many I had the dealer slap on some slip ons at the time of purchase just for some noise (v&h straight shots in chrome which are for sale for $150 if anybody is interested just pm me) and because I had no idea what exhaust I wanted yet. I had the dealer flash my ecm and off I went with a loud and popping at every decel scoot.
After roughly 2k miles I was able to decide on the sweepers and before I could afford the FP3, I went ahead with the install and road sparingly as the popping was dramatically worse as expected untuned. I received my FP3 yesterday and put it on late last night when I got home from work and didn't get the chance to ride.
Well that changed today with the Temp being a high of 70 and let me tell you I am thoroughly impressed. Picked the big radius 2-2 after talking to v&h customer service and the responsiveness of the bike is night and day as well as minimal popping. Really only pops on decel going downhill. Weather sucks next couple of days but Sunday I plan to ride all day and auto tune to help smooth out any rough edges.
The FP3 has my bike running smooth like butter and is simple to set up and operate. I would recommend it to anybody.
F*** I can't wait until Sunday!
After roughly 2k miles I was able to decide on the sweepers and before I could afford the FP3, I went ahead with the install and road sparingly as the popping was dramatically worse as expected untuned. I received my FP3 yesterday and put it on late last night when I got home from work and didn't get the chance to ride.
Well that changed today with the Temp being a high of 70 and let me tell you I am thoroughly impressed. Picked the big radius 2-2 after talking to v&h customer service and the responsiveness of the bike is night and day as well as minimal popping. Really only pops on decel going downhill. Weather sucks next couple of days but Sunday I plan to ride all day and auto tune to help smooth out any rough edges.
The FP3 has my bike running smooth like butter and is simple to set up and operate. I would recommend it to anybody.
F*** I can't wait until Sunday!
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Have you auto tuned your bike? If so how did it go? I've heard of a lot of people having trouble with auto tune. When I first ran the app it downloaded it's update and in the details it stated it was to fix auto tune bugs.
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I ran it last year with no problems. Even though the exhaust I have was included in the canned maps I thought it optimized better. The key for me was to autotune a decent size ride, then finalize that map, flash it, and then autotune the new map. That worked better than the alternative of applying learned values and continue (without flashing in between rides).
Currently V&H supplied me a new map for the cam change I made based upon the specs of the cams. Given winter conditions I've only ridden a few times with the new map but it actually runs better than any of my previous canned ones so I don't expect to autotune it except for maybe ***** and giggles. Remember you can name any of your autotunes or current map so that you can choose whichever works best.
Currently V&H supplied me a new map for the cam change I made based upon the specs of the cams. Given winter conditions I've only ridden a few times with the new map but it actually runs better than any of my previous canned ones so I don't expect to autotune it except for maybe ***** and giggles. Remember you can name any of your autotunes or current map so that you can choose whichever works best.
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My intent is to auto tune over 400 miles of various riding such as low speed, hills, twisties and highway and to hit every rpm in every gear multiple times.
So you are saying that it is better to do this? What do you mean by finalize the map? Also are you saying that you auto tuned the auto tune map that you ran?
I'm well aware of your experiences with FP3 and the canned map for your cams as I have been lurking here for a while now. Your experience and reviews were very helpful in my decision to go with this product. I too plan on doing cams probably next winter. Hopefully by then v&h has developed even more maps.
So you are saying that it is better to do this? What do you mean by finalize the map? Also are you saying that you auto tuned the auto tune map that you ran?
I'm well aware of your experiences with FP3 and the canned map for your cams as I have been lurking here for a while now. Your experience and reviews were very helpful in my decision to go with this product. I too plan on doing cams probably next winter. Hopefully by then v&h has developed even more maps.
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My intent is to auto tune over 400 miles of various riding such as low speed, hills, twisties and highway and to hit every rpm in every gear multiple times.
So you are saying that it is better to do this? What do you mean by finalize the map? Also are you saying that you auto tuned the auto tune map that you ran?
I'm well aware of your experiences with FP3 and the canned map for your cams as I have been lurking here for a while now. Your experience and reviews were very helpful in my decision to go with this product. I too plan on doing cams probably next winter. Hopefully by then v&h has developed even more maps.
So you are saying that it is better to do this? What do you mean by finalize the map? Also are you saying that you auto tuned the auto tune map that you ran?
I'm well aware of your experiences with FP3 and the canned map for your cams as I have been lurking here for a while now. Your experience and reviews were very helpful in my decision to go with this product. I too plan on doing cams probably next winter. Hopefully by then v&h has developed even more maps.
Just remember to keep your original canned map as an original. You can flash as many times as you like.
If you have any challenges, the support staff is pretty darn helpful too.
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Thanks for the advice. I'm thinking that on Sunday I will be able to gather enough criteria to finalize my first auto tune map and go ahead and flash. If I have to or just for the sake of it I will then auto tune that map just to see if it gets better.
I've heard a lot of people had trouble filling up all cells in the green and in curious as to what were your results? Did you just get as many as possible and then finalize and flash or did you just keep riding until all cells were green? What is the best way to get all the information for auto tune to learn your riding style and create the map?
Sorry for all the questions but your help is greatly appreciated and my hat is off to you for taking the time to answer me.
I've heard a lot of people had trouble filling up all cells in the green and in curious as to what were your results? Did you just get as many as possible and then finalize and flash or did you just keep riding until all cells were green? What is the best way to get all the information for auto tune to learn your riding style and create the map?
Sorry for all the questions but your help is greatly appreciated and my hat is off to you for taking the time to answer me.
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Not at all, I don't mind the questions or answering, just keep in mind that it's an experience of one and that I'm new to all of this as well 
I definitely had challenges filling in many of the cells. Nor did my pattern ever look like a football which I think is mentioned in the V&H FAQ. Still, I followed the advice of not being jerky and just riding normally. My final tune was probably a mix of 5 different rides and two tanks of gas. I think the challenge is mixing up the styles based on terrain available to you. Some twisties, climbs, Interstate, etc. I had no problems with the canned map until I changed baffles, then when I put in the new map that they had with quiet baffles I started to get more decel pop than I liked. I know it's a normal function but it was just a bit too much. The auto tune helped quite a bit. from a performance standpoint, or mileage I was very happy all the way through.
I'm trying to learn about the maps as much as I can and will soon be taking my bike to a local tuner who also wants to check out the versatility of the FP3. My hope is that he will be able to give an objective opinion on the current map and say "yay or nay" that it's pretty darn good and within 95% of what a true professional tune would do (Which I would still gladly pay for if he was willing to tune it with the FP3). I understand that a canned map is exactly that and every bike is different in one way or another.
I definitely had challenges filling in many of the cells. Nor did my pattern ever look like a football which I think is mentioned in the V&H FAQ. Still, I followed the advice of not being jerky and just riding normally. My final tune was probably a mix of 5 different rides and two tanks of gas. I think the challenge is mixing up the styles based on terrain available to you. Some twisties, climbs, Interstate, etc. I had no problems with the canned map until I changed baffles, then when I put in the new map that they had with quiet baffles I started to get more decel pop than I liked. I know it's a normal function but it was just a bit too much. The auto tune helped quite a bit. from a performance standpoint, or mileage I was very happy all the way through.
I'm trying to learn about the maps as much as I can and will soon be taking my bike to a local tuner who also wants to check out the versatility of the FP3. My hope is that he will be able to give an objective opinion on the current map and say "yay or nay" that it's pretty darn good and within 95% of what a true professional tune would do (Which I would still gladly pay for if he was willing to tune it with the FP3). I understand that a canned map is exactly that and every bike is different in one way or another.
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Thanks for the kind words by the way, and I'm happy that some of my impressions may have helped you or anyone else make their decisions.
As I've said many times, it irks me when people disregard the FP3 (or any product that has proven itself and continues to improve). There are many great tuners on the market and I think this one fits a great niche and has a ton of opportunity. The electronics division of V&H has gone to great lengths to make people happy (I started out with a bum FP3 that wouldn't connect to my bike, I could have easily tossed it for a PV2 but they earned some points by sending a new one out overnight, no questions asked). Sometimes people forget that before the PV2 there was a previous incarnation that perhaps was not as good as the current, same for the TTS, etc. I'm hoping that V&H are just getting started.
As I've said many times, it irks me when people disregard the FP3 (or any product that has proven itself and continues to improve). There are many great tuners on the market and I think this one fits a great niche and has a ton of opportunity. The electronics division of V&H has gone to great lengths to make people happy (I started out with a bum FP3 that wouldn't connect to my bike, I could have easily tossed it for a PV2 but they earned some points by sending a new one out overnight, no questions asked). Sometimes people forget that before the PV2 there was a previous incarnation that perhaps was not as good as the current, same for the TTS, etc. I'm hoping that V&H are just getting started.
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I have gone through the multiple reviews and experiences but none have been as insightful nor as well articulated as yours. Trust me when I say I am not just going off your trials and tribulations however, I think your experiences will and do presently reflect my own.
I live in clarksville, tn and have all the terrain I need to auto tune. I think I will just go ahead and ride sunday as planned for about 400 miles and it should suffice. I will let you know how it works out and if I have any more questions be prepared! Lol. Obviously I will contact v&h first but your advice has been spot on so far.
While I was writing this reply I thought of a few more questions... have you adjusted your idle rpm? I know you have cams and I am wondering if you have the infamous "potato" sound from doing so or if it doesn't make a difference because of no carb. I currently have my idle set at 864 and I think it sounds great but not like any carb bike. Not looking to get in a debate over charging or oil flow, just curious as to whether or not your sound is similar to carb with the efi and cams you are running?
I live in clarksville, tn and have all the terrain I need to auto tune. I think I will just go ahead and ride sunday as planned for about 400 miles and it should suffice. I will let you know how it works out and if I have any more questions be prepared! Lol. Obviously I will contact v&h first but your advice has been spot on so far.
While I was writing this reply I thought of a few more questions... have you adjusted your idle rpm? I know you have cams and I am wondering if you have the infamous "potato" sound from doing so or if it doesn't make a difference because of no carb. I currently have my idle set at 864 and I think it sounds great but not like any carb bike. Not looking to get in a debate over charging or oil flow, just curious as to whether or not your sound is similar to carb with the efi and cams you are running?