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Old Sep 26, 2018 | 07:34 AM
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I've run both the Jagg and Fueling adapters and the stock filter fits with no problem.
 

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The Jagg adapter shifts the filter up (so the hoses can come out below) enough to add to the clearance between the filter and the crank sensor.
 
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I've run both the Jagg and Fueling adapters and the stock filter fits with no problem.
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The Jagg adapter shifts the filter up (so the hoses can come out below) enough to add to the clearance between the filter and the crank sensor.
So the filterseizeproblem is fixed by the offset position of the filter but as far as I can see the tempsensor doesn’t fit in the sandwichplate anymore...
 
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Old Oct 2, 2018 | 05:17 AM
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Use 2 of these back to back to make some room and a pipe nipple between then if you need more room. https://www.zoro.com/parker-stree-el...bhwNWWQWpKdqNc
 

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Old Oct 2, 2018 | 08:44 AM
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You're talking about these two plugs, right?


I'm pretty sure the lower one is the passage from the oil pump to the filter and the upper one is the return from the filter. Either one would work fine for a pressure sensor. They are both dead ends, though, so a temperature sensor would have to reach far enough into the housing to get to the oil that is actually circulating. As someone else touched on, a sensor that blocks the flow would be a problem...

I keep hoping to find a contact sensor I can clamp onto the oil filter itself...
 
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Old Oct 2, 2018 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by John CC
I keep hoping to find a contact sensor I can clamp onto the oil filter itself...
Easy Peasy, man. We used to take continuous surface temp measurements from tubes and housings (to get fluid temps) at my last job. We used Type K thermocouples, hose clamped or brazed to the test article and insulated with a bit of adhesive foam. We were taking lab-grade measurements so the insulation shouldn't be necessary in a case like this. Do a bit of research and you should be golden.

We got our equipment from Omega, but this place looks good for your purposes.

http://thesensorconnection.com/categ...-thermocouples
 

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Here's a quick example using some stuff I had lying around. Hot water in a heavy ceramic bowl.


Hand soldered Type K thermocouple wire/contact.


Water temp


A bit of butyl rubber and duck tape holding the contact in place. (The butyl was too soft by itself)


Thermocouple reading, surface of cup.


Flir One Pro, to verify/corroborate.
 

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Originally Posted by cggorman
Here's a quick example using some stuff I had lying around.
OMG! Shouldn't you be working on your bike!

Now, all I need is a cool looking oil temp gauge that mates to a K-type probe...

That thing's tiny enough to just stick it in the oil gallery somewhere.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2018 | 11:36 AM
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How a thermocouple works (and more): https://www.brighthubengineering.com...ocouple-works/

The gauge manufacturers should be able to tell you what type of thermocouple they are set up to read.

Omega and the link up above have various probes with fittings designed to be inserted directly into the fluid and remain leak-tite. We used those, too. Mostly NPT. I haven't looked, but they may have some that would work as dual-purpose drain plugs

I use the setup pictured mostly for intake air temperature when I'm building or modifying a cold air intake for a car/truck but it's battery powered and easily adaptable to measure any variety of things. It's really no different than a remote temp monitor used in the kitchen to keep track of large cuts of roasting meat.

I work on the bike in fits and starts. Mostly late at night. That seems to be when I'm most motivated.


Edited to correct operation of a thermocouple. Thanks to JohnCC for pointing out my error.
 

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