Trouble getting fat bob in neutral
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From: Honah Lee
Hello guys, permission to cut in.
I have a 195 Dyna Superglide Sport and I have noticed that it is next to impossible to downshift from 2nd into Neutral, the 'box simply clicks into 1st gear.
When in 1st gear, I can find Neutral easily enough but on a cold engine (early in the morning) she will shift 1st-N and then N-2nd.
All other gears are OK.
This got me thinking that perhaps the shift lever linkage is adjusted too close to "downshift" and a little too far away from "upshift".
How much should I readjust... 1/16th inch ? 1/8th ? How many flats of the adjusting nut ?
Thank you
I have a 195 Dyna Superglide Sport and I have noticed that it is next to impossible to downshift from 2nd into Neutral, the 'box simply clicks into 1st gear.
When in 1st gear, I can find Neutral easily enough but on a cold engine (early in the morning) she will shift 1st-N and then N-2nd.
All other gears are OK.
This got me thinking that perhaps the shift lever linkage is adjusted too close to "downshift" and a little too far away from "upshift".
How much should I readjust... 1/16th inch ? 1/8th ? How many flats of the adjusting nut ?
Thank you
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Thank you.
Just to be clear, I was referring to the shift linkage, not to the clutch lever.
You say "Do 3/4 turn... not flats".
OK; "flats" of a nut is a typical British system to fine tune a linkage.
You say "3/4 turn" which I take for "three quarters".
I am not sure I understand your "be sure you are at no play by moving lever as you bottom for no play and two tuns in past it and then back out for no play fill."
I take this to mean "push the gear lever down as far as it will go, keep it down and make sure there is no play in the linkage".
If there is play, "two turns in, then back out for no play".
I think I understand.
Unfortunately the owners manual on a 21y.o. bike is wishful thinking, I found one off eBay (m.y. 1996, not 1995) but it includes literally ALL Harleys produced that year...
Thank you for your advice
Just to be clear, I was referring to the shift linkage, not to the clutch lever.
You say "Do 3/4 turn... not flats".
OK; "flats" of a nut is a typical British system to fine tune a linkage.
You say "3/4 turn" which I take for "three quarters".
I am not sure I understand your "be sure you are at no play by moving lever as you bottom for no play and two tuns in past it and then back out for no play fill."
I take this to mean "push the gear lever down as far as it will go, keep it down and make sure there is no play in the linkage".
If there is play, "two turns in, then back out for no play".
I think I understand.
Unfortunately the owners manual on a 21y.o. bike is wishful thinking, I found one off eBay (m.y. 1996, not 1995) but it includes literally ALL Harleys produced that year...
Thank you for your advice
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From: Honah Lee
Thank you.
Just to be clear, I was referring to the shift linkage, not to the clutch lever.
You say "Do 3/4 turn... not flats".
OK; "flats" of a nut is a typical British system to fine tune a linkage.
You say "3/4 turn" which I take for "three quarters".
I am not sure I understand your "be sure you are at no play by moving lever as you bottom for no play and two tuns in past it and then back out for no play fill."
I take this to mean "push the gear lever down as far as it will go, keep it down and make sure there is no play in the linkage".
If there is play, "two turns in, then back out for no play".
I think I understand.
Unfortunately the owners manual on a 21y.o. bike is wishful thinking, I found one off eBay (m.y. 1996, not 1995) but it includes literally ALL Harleys produced that year...
Thank you for your advice
Just to be clear, I was referring to the shift linkage, not to the clutch lever.
You say "Do 3/4 turn... not flats".
OK; "flats" of a nut is a typical British system to fine tune a linkage.
You say "3/4 turn" which I take for "three quarters".
I am not sure I understand your "be sure you are at no play by moving lever as you bottom for no play and two tuns in past it and then back out for no play fill."
I take this to mean "push the gear lever down as far as it will go, keep it down and make sure there is no play in the linkage".
If there is play, "two turns in, then back out for no play".
I think I understand.
Unfortunately the owners manual on a 21y.o. bike is wishful thinking, I found one off eBay (m.y. 1996, not 1995) but it includes literally ALL Harleys produced that year...
Thank you for your advice
What I am referring to in the back off from the bottom is when you screw in to bottom and take all the play out, people miss this. If you screw it in to bottom and then two more turns in to deburr thread and then back out, As you go back in to find bottom, if you work the clutch lever and screw in, you will fill that little play till it disappears. That is the true no play. Then your 1/2 to 3/4 turn. Lock it there and set your lever play .062 or (2 mm) with the cable adjuster and lock it. (Note do not back off cable adjuster too far when setting the clutch backoff or the lever will not work so you can fill no play)
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Ok... now we're just complicating something that's completely simple to do. With the locknut backed off and the allen seated in the adjuster screw; think the face of a clock. Where is the allen wrench at light seat of the adjuster screw? 12 o'clock? Ok, if you want a 3/4 turn out from light seat that's 3 o'clock. At light seat it's at 10 o'clock, now that makes it a 1 o'clock counterclockwise turn for a 3/4 adjustment.
Don't think so hard, it's a Harley, not the Space Shuttle
I've always used a nickel between the perch and the cable ferrule for setting the clutch cable freeplay; I don't know how that works out for the Brits but it's always worked perfectly
I posted this earlier, post #10; but read it; it's red brick stupid to do the adjustments... promise
Don't think so hard, it's a Harley, not the Space Shuttle
I've always used a nickel between the perch and the cable ferrule for setting the clutch cable freeplay; I don't know how that works out for the Brits but it's always worked perfectly
I posted this earlier, post #10; but read it; it's red brick stupid to do the adjustments... promise
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