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Old Sep 30, 2016 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by krouke
my dealer called and said it is the rear head gasket and said it is 650.00...but said that includes an oil change. I said forget the oil change because it was changed at 1000 miles and only has 1770 on bike now or 770 miles on last service. So he knocked off 100.00. So I end up paying 550.00. Which is still too much. It should be covered warranty because it is a gasket between the head and block. It is not the motor! So I am going to call Harley!

If its the head gasket its not between the head and the block it is the gasket between the head and the cylinder and if the head gasket was blown you would have felt a performance difference because it would be sucking air into the combustion chamber.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2016 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by krouke
my dealer called and said it is the rear head gasket and said it is 650.00...but said that includes an oil change. I said forget the oil change because it was changed at 1000 miles and only has 1770 on bike now or 770 miles on last service. So he knocked off 100.00. So I end up paying 550.00. Which is still too much. It should be covered warranty because it is a gasket between the head and block. It is not the motor! So I am going to call Harley!
The headgasket is not between the head and the block. Its between the head and cylinder, as nick said; and as nevil said, the head gasket is as much a part of the engine as any hard part.

Why in the world would you buy a brand new bike, with a race engine that has no warranty, and expect the dealer or the MOCO to fix an engine problem under warranty? If you wanted a warranty, you should have left it stock or installed a 120st. I've knowingly voided engine warranties on various vehicles i've owned, including my harley's and readily accepted responsibility when things went wrong.

The question i would be asking is why did the gasket blow, and focus on getting that fixed so the problem doesnt repeat or get worse. Typically a blown head gasket on a performance engine, like the 120r, is due to detonation. I would suspect a bad tune running too much timing or too lean.

And for christ's sake don't cheap out on changing the oil. I know you just had it changed, but the dealer will be tearing into your motor. Changing the oil is standard practice after that type of work for too many reasons to list.
 

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Old Sep 30, 2016 | 01:51 PM
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Not changing the oil when the head is off? Wow. Maybe they used a little solvent on the mating surfaces. Maybe some of it leaked down. Maybe your oil now has some solvent in it? Change the damn oil yourself. $40. You're not going to to void any warranty...
 
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Old Sep 30, 2016 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by krouke
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today I noticed a few small drops of oil under the center of bike.
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I don't think I've ever heard of a head gasket causing drops of oil under the center of bike
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Old Sep 30, 2016 | 02:31 PM
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If I pulled the engine on the Harleys in the garage because of some oil spot leaking I'd have three engines sitting on the floor.

This time of year with riding at a premium in most places? I'd check the fluids before I rode and wouldn't do anything but monitor it and continue to ride. MAYBE I'd have a look in the dead of winter and that's a maybe depending on how bad it was leaking.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2016 | 02:55 PM
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Yep, I knew it but didn't expect anything to happen this soon! But when I blow around bikes that think they're bad I love my 120R all the more warranty or not !
 
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Old Sep 30, 2016 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by krouke
It should be covered warranty because it is a gasket between the head and block. It is not the motor! So I am going to call Harley!
Huh?? Just exactly what parts do you think the engine consists of? And that is not where that gasket resides. But, if it did, why would you think it was not part of the engine? Please explain.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2016 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by HDConvert511
Huh?? Just exactly what parts do you think the engine consists of? And that is not where that gasket resides. But, if it did, why would you think it was not part of the engine? Please explain.





Unless your the dealer that sold it to me ,I don't think I need to explain!
 
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Old Oct 1, 2016 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by MTBIG G
If it's a head gasket, not sure it is based on the description, it is an engine issue. There would be no warranty. Sorry.


I keep saying head gasket ( I think) Its a cylinder gasket where cyl. bolts on to base or gear housing or block!
 
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Old Oct 1, 2016 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Just Nick
If its the head gasket its not between the head and the block it is the gasket between the head and the cylinder and if the head gasket was blown you would have felt a performance difference because it would be sucking air into the combustion chamber.



Thanks for this comment ! It made me realize I referred as a head gasket but should have clarified it is the base cylinder gasket that bolts on the block of gear housing. It was denied as warranty because the gasket was a special order for the 120R motor.
 
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