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Old Jun 24, 2007 | 05:43 PM
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The 07 install is identical to the 06. Since I put mine on my 07 WG I've put several on friends bikes. The dynas are definitely the toughest, but it's really not that bad. The first one took me 4 hours but I can do it in about 90 minutes on a dyna now.

Answers to a few other questions I saw in this thread:
[ul][*]As far as emissions testing, the Tmax could actually help. The A/F ratio settings in the map can be overidden if necessary with the click of the mouse. The maps target 13:1 and the auto tune makes fine adjustments as you ride but if the need arose you could set it back to 14.7:1, which is what the factory shoots for in stock trim.[*]When you compare the cost of the SERT to the Tmax you have to keep in mind that if you make changes down the road you'll have to remap the SERT and hit the dyno again. All you have to do with the Tmax is find a map that fits your setup and let her rip, the auto tune will do the rest.[/ul]
Oh yeah, one final note. If you have straight pipes or very free flowing slip-ons the Tmax will not eliminate all of the deceleration popping. I'm told they are working on a solution to this but you'll get the best result from a 2 into 1 set up because of the natural anti-reversion characteristics of the pipes. The popping with most pipe combinations I've fooled with is minimal though.

Hope this helps.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2007 | 10:47 PM
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I installed the thundermax with auto tune, a big sucker, and python 2into1 on my 07 dyna. I did the modification of the electrical caddy while it was still attached to the bike, I had trouble like you did with loosening the mounting screws of the stock ecu. I dripped some gumout on the screws and then drilled into the screw a bit from the back of the ecu mount. It heated the screws enough that I was able to break them freepretty easily.The old oxygen sensors I just disconnected and removedwith the stock pipe. I mounted the new oxygen sensors into the python pipe before I put the pipe on and it went together pretty easily, no special tools needed. Whenit came time to load the basemap I tried to download the latest map updates and found that windows vistawould't download them. I called zippers and they told me a fix for windows vista andalso told me which map would be best for my setup. I've since put about 200 miles on the bike and I am very happy with the way it runs. It pulls much harder throughout the rev range. I also turned the idle speed down a little so the bike has a little more of that classic harley sound.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2007 | 11:30 PM
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Hello RidenLow07;

I had no problems with the mounting screws, they came right out. (Maybe you are thinking of a different post. It seems like there was one concerning that.) I am glad to hear that your bike is running well and that you are pleased with the results. The guys at Zippers are really good about the customer support. The T-Max is a little pricy but in the long run I think that it will be a good investment.

Good luck with it.
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Old Jun 24, 2007 | 11:43 PM
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If you are going to remove and install the o2sensors with the header pipes still on the bike you will need a regular 22mm crow’s foot to get at the rear sensor. I bought a set of specialized o2 sensor remove/install tools with 2 different o2 crows’ feet and sensor socket that were useless because of the tight constraints of the area in which you must work. A 12 inch extension and a ratchet along with the standard 22 mm crows foot is what it took to get the old sensors out and put the wide bands in.
Not true, a simple 22mm wrench can remove both front and rear O2 sensors without removing header pipes. When one removes the battery tray it is easy access to rear O2 sensor.

For those interested the T-max install is almost the same as the DTT TCFI 2D I installed. Here is a link to a post I made with pics and all. https://www.hdforums.com/m_1341094/tm.htm
 
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 11:30 AM
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I can see that removing the battery box would offer more room and just using a “simple 22 mm wrench” would be possible. But I just followed Zippers instruction sheet and not being nearly as forward thinking as you I did the job the hard way, I guess. The end result however, is the same.

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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 01:15 PM
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I recently installed mine on a Dyna. Took me almost an hour. I read the instructions a few times prior to the install. Had all the right tools. Got a special o2 sensor socket which helped a lot paired with a 12 inch extension. The electrically caddy was the worst part, but 15 mins and I had that cleaned up and put back in. The initialization took about 20 mins and was pretty straight-forward. I have had a smile on my face since I paired it with my stg 2 big sucker and BSS's. Bike sounds great and pulls hard in any RPM range. I now find myself shifting into 6th at about 45-50 mph and it pulls without hesitation. Best money I have spent yet.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 02:08 PM
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I am now sold on the Thundermax..... Thanx for all the info. If I have to, I can put it all back to stock if needed because of warranty issues.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 02:22 PM
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I can see that removing the battery box would offer more room and just using a “simple 12 mm wrench” would be possible. But I just followed Zippers instruction sheet and not being nearly as forward thinking as you I did the job the hard way, I guess. The end result however, is the same.

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This being the internet and I not knowing you I hope I didn't come across as trying to tramp on your post. Wasn't my intention, I was just trying to give more info to others that may be helpfull. I read your post with interest and saw a spot were I did it different is all. And thought maybe the post I had and yours together may really help people with there decisions and installs.

Congrats on buying a great system. Hope you had a great weekend.

Josh
 
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 03:01 PM
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Sorry, must have been a different post someone mentioned having trouble getting the ecu mounting screws out, anyway I had trouble with the brass insert just turning along with the screw until Idrilled into the screws from the backside a little and heated them up, then they were easy to remove.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 05:07 PM
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Hello Man4Mopar;

A post on the forum is open for any and all to comment or expand on. Had I known about your previous post with photos I would have certainly looked it over before I started my install. With all of the interest that is being shown on the DTT and T-Max maybe you should try and get your instructional post added as a sticky. The installation of ether system does not require credentials as rocket scientist. But it is a some what complicated multi-step install. Any pointers, short cuts, or tips like (remove the battery box) could help some one that was having a particularly difficult time with ether install. I think more and more interest is going to begenerated in the aftermarket systems like DTT and T-Max. (I wish I owned stock in their company’s, I think that they are going to do very well.)

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