Dumb Question...
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MMH
You are an arsshole
Go shift you freekin thing anyway you want.
if you want more lessons on how things work take a class
.We all did our best with you
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You are an arsshole
Go shift you freekin thing anyway you want.
if you want more lessons on how things work take a class
.We all did our best with you
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I WILL shift my harley as I want to.
Sure I'll take a class and learn how to drive Big, Non-Sync. transmissions (actually, don't have to as I have a CDL), or D9s (hint - they have hydrostats and do not need friction plate clutches).
Be sure to adjust the FluxCapasitors as you get on your Starship and pontificate (I know, big word) to less civilized cultures about things that you are truly clueless about.
As the song goes, "Were you born an *******, or did you just work on it your whole life...
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Is Intellectualism a big word too? LOL
Do automatics have clutches? (Hint yes)
However, I am pretty sure your sprag clutch has let go!
Do you want to brag what you know about transmissions here? LOL
Is that your goal to describe overrunning, one way, variable vane semi-articulated linear actuated stator?
Are you wishing to Write a synopsis of them?
To impress me/us?
you hardly will.
Some of us have been around a while
Engines define transmissions-every engineer knows that.
See if your braggart mind can define that.
Do automatics have clutches? (Hint yes)
However, I am pretty sure your sprag clutch has let go!
Do you want to brag what you know about transmissions here? LOL
Is that your goal to describe overrunning, one way, variable vane semi-articulated linear actuated stator?
Are you wishing to Write a synopsis of them?
To impress me/us?
you hardly will.
Some of us have been around a while
Engines define transmissions-every engineer knows that.
See if your braggart mind can define that.
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MMH, as someone else posted: check your clutch adjustment(s).
If you can shift more smoothly without using it, it is an indication you may have something out of whack. Have you gone through and checked everything already? Simple things like the amount of slack in the cable and the adjustment bolt, or heck even too much fluid may cause that. You need to eliminate the possibilities of a mechanical issue before proceeding further.
Sorry you are not getting the warm fuzzy responses it appears you were hoping for but when you start a thread with "Dumb question. . . " you will bring out the best in some of us (in other words, you kind of invited it).
If you can shift more smoothly without using it, it is an indication you may have something out of whack. Have you gone through and checked everything already? Simple things like the amount of slack in the cable and the adjustment bolt, or heck even too much fluid may cause that. You need to eliminate the possibilities of a mechanical issue before proceeding further.
Sorry you are not getting the warm fuzzy responses it appears you were hoping for but when you start a thread with "Dumb question. . . " you will bring out the best in some of us (in other words, you kind of invited it).
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I drop into 1st right before I come to a complete stop... but by that time I already have the clutch in.... probably no more than 1-2 mph.
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I shift down all the time... smooth as glass. "pull/blip - shift", I do that to all the gears except 1st... when I'm in second I'm rolling to a stop.. when I'm about at 15mph, I pull the clutch in and just before I stop, I shift to 1st, with the clutch still in. Easy-peasy.
These trannys have been called 'dumptruck trannys' for a reason - they really won't last long power shifting.
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I've owned more sport bikes and track bikes than I have HD's. I can both upshift and downshift without using the clutch on them. It's all about timing, coordination, and rev matching when you do it, both up and down.
On my HD's? I use the clutch lever
You can preload the shift peg and it will take just a quick stab at the lever for smooth shifting, on both upshifts and downshifts with an HD. But, in the long term, use the clutch...
On my HD's? I use the clutch lever
You can preload the shift peg and it will take just a quick stab at the lever for smooth shifting, on both upshifts and downshifts with an HD. But, in the long term, use the clutch...
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This is because you are not pulling engine rpm up at the same time you pull the clutch in and shift down. The point is to match engine speed with the gear and your forward speed... just like a truck.
I shift down all the time... smooth as glass. "pull/blip - shift", I do that to all the gears except 1st... when I'm in second I'm rolling to a stop.. when I'm about at 15mph, I pull the clutch in and just before I stop, I shift to 1st, with the clutch still in. Easy-peasy.
These trannys have been called 'dumptruck trannys' for a reason - they really won't last long power shifting.
I shift down all the time... smooth as glass. "pull/blip - shift", I do that to all the gears except 1st... when I'm in second I'm rolling to a stop.. when I'm about at 15mph, I pull the clutch in and just before I stop, I shift to 1st, with the clutch still in. Easy-peasy.
These trannys have been called 'dumptruck trannys' for a reason - they really won't last long power shifting.
I'm actually very surprised as to how smooth this transmission and clutch is. Better than some metrics that I had. Roughest bike transmission that I ever had was on a BMW R1150R. Felt like a truck transmission. Then again, that bike had a dry clutch too.
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The rev match is probably more finicky with a torquey V-Twin than a high revving 4.
The slipping is a concern, tho. Sounds like the clutch may need some TLC or an upgrade, depending on what has been done to the engine. Clutch upgrades seem to usually start at around 120 lb-ft of torque.
Make sure your primary fluid is the correct type. No friction modifiers. Lots of people like ATF.
The slipping is a concern, tho. Sounds like the clutch may need some TLC or an upgrade, depending on what has been done to the engine. Clutch upgrades seem to usually start at around 120 lb-ft of torque.
Make sure your primary fluid is the correct type. No friction modifiers. Lots of people like ATF.
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Preloading the shift peg made a world of difference. It's not that the shifts were not smooth when I was using the clutch, just that when I let the clutch back out the clutch would slip as I would get back on throttle. Preloading eliminated the clutch slippage - almost as smooth and quick as shifting w/o the clutch. Thanks for the advice.
This is a decent article explaining rev matched downshifting; it's becoming a lost art
http://www.trackdaymag.com/categorie...for-downshifts