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I have ridden the 8 ball. I seriously considered it before my Roberto. I just could not get over the "tank" feel of the thing. It is lighter than my bob "I think" but it feels like a tank on the road. SLOW manuevering. And I can say my Bob is not the quickest turning machine either, but it doesn't feel like this.
The Jap Crap Layout of the hand controls. I used to ride a Jap bike and I hated the controls then and hated them on the Victory.
The BRAKES KICK *** on the Victory. I wish Harley would put full Brembo brakes on thier bikes or atleast emulate that system.
Motor is about a wash really. I don't know very many riders that can outride 70 horses on a bike anyway. I ride fairly hard (by cruiser standards) and my TC 88 is just fine with the PC, Pipes and AC.
All in all, Get what you like. I gave you my opinion because you asked for it, but really it is you riding whatever you buy, I bought the bike I want to ride and think is the best.
Motor is about a wash really. I don't know very many riders that can outride 70 horses on a bike anyway
It's not so much the size of the motor or even the standard horsepower it's just a much more modern design with overhead cams and 4 valves per cylinder.It starts out with slightly more HP and a bunch more torque but can be pushed to over 100HP easier than a Twin Cam 96.That said, they need to put that motor in something that looks decent and doesn't handle like a truck before they get my money.
I'm hoping some long time riders can tell me why I should support
H D when they turned their backs on the pan/shovel crowd.
That's not quite a fair statement. The pan/shovel bikes have become classics... just like '56 Ford Trucks and '65 GTO's and '36 Knuckleheads have become classics. You wouldn't take your '65 GTO to the local Pontiac dealer and expect to find parts and expert service. There is not a big enough demand for mechanics who specialize in that type of work. You can't even hardly find mechanics anymore that can rebuild a 4 barrel carb and set the dwell on the points. Besides, it's all they can do to keep up with the recent model years. To say that Harley has turned their backs on the pan/shovel crowd is like saying that Volkswagen has turned their backs on the air cooled Beetle crowd. It's not even a relevant statement.
Motor is about a wash really. I don't know very many riders that can outride 70 horses on a bike anyway
It's not so much the size of the motor or even the standard horsepower it's just a much more modern design with overhead cams and 4 valves per cylinder.It starts out with slightly more HP and a bunch more torque but can be pushed to over 100HP easier than a Twin Cam 96.That said, they need to put that motor in something that looks decent and doesn't handle like a truck before they get my money.
I guess I can swallow that reasoning. I still don't know many people that can outride 70 horses though. Just most people are not near good enough to do it.
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