Radial Mount vs Ness Big Brake kit
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Cruiser
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From: AZ
Almost free set of GXSR 750 Brembo calipers
I was all set on 2 big brake kits and then a buddy basically said i he'd give a set of 750 GXSR brembos if i wired up a recptical for him.
I don't mean to be such a PITA with all the questions but i have no experience with any of these items and none of these mods are cheap.
Between Tokico and Brembo GXSR calipers which are better? Do you think thedual GXSR Brembos will be better than dual Ness BB kits w stock calipers?
If i do the Brembos I'm gonna go with Speed Merchants 13" mounts. They also make a 1" spacer to bring it out to 14". What options would i have for rotors?
I looked at hardcase but their setup is 1k$. There has to be cheaper options than that?
I don't mean to be such a PITA with all the questions but i have no experience with any of these items and none of these mods are cheap.
Between Tokico and Brembo GXSR calipers which are better? Do you think thedual GXSR Brembos will be better than dual Ness BB kits w stock calipers?
If i do the Brembos I'm gonna go with Speed Merchants 13" mounts. They also make a 1" spacer to bring it out to 14". What options would i have for rotors?
I looked at hardcase but their setup is 1k$. There has to be cheaper options than that?
Road Captain
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From: MA
I was all set on 2 big brake kits and then a buddy basically said i he'd give a set of 750 GXSR brembos if i wired up a recptical for him.
I don't mean to be such a PITA with all the questions but i have no experience with any of these items and none of these mods are cheap.
Between Tokico and Brembo GXSR calipers which are better? Do you think thedual GXSR Brembos will be better than dual Ness BB kits w stock calipers?
If i do the Brembos I'm gonna go with Speed Merchants 13" mounts. They also make a 1" spacer to bring it out to 14". What options would i have for rotors?
I looked at hardcase but their setup is 1k$. There has to be cheaper options than that?
I don't mean to be such a PITA with all the questions but i have no experience with any of these items and none of these mods are cheap.
Between Tokico and Brembo GXSR calipers which are better? Do you think thedual GXSR Brembos will be better than dual Ness BB kits w stock calipers?
If i do the Brembos I'm gonna go with Speed Merchants 13" mounts. They also make a 1" spacer to bring it out to 14". What options would i have for rotors?
I looked at hardcase but their setup is 1k$. There has to be cheaper options than that?
I do think the radial calipers would be better then the stock caliper with the Ness rotor. To me braking is more about feel then flat out braking surface. The radial caliper with a good master will give you much better braking feel and power then what the Harley stuff will give you.
As for rotors look at Brake Tech. They make up to a 330mm disc. They are 13 inches. I went with their 320mm disc. Don't be stuck on bigger is better for disc size. You can get too much braking surface and then you brakes can be too touchy.
You will also need new brake hoses and brake pads so factor that into your money equation. For good brakes you are going to spend a bit of money. Around $1000 for the entire setup sounds a little light. In round numbers. $270 for caliper brackets, $700 for brake discs, $330 for the Brembo master, $110 for brake pads, around $100 to $150 for brake hoses, and then figure in at about another $100 for random parts like a reservoir, mount, and possibly a new brake switch. That is for my brake setup.
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If im not mistaken didnt cvaria put dual ness big brake kits on the front of his sportster and it was almost over powered in the brake department. Like doing stoppies if not careful, that overpowered. If you are going with the 15inch rotor then one radial caliper(tokico or brembo) should give you more than enough stopping power. You dont want to go too powerful where even a slight touch of the lever locks up the front wheel.
One of the best ways to improve braking is to put better springs in the front suspension so you dont bottom out when brakin and have less front end dive. It makes the bike easier to control and shortens your stopping distance.
One of the best ways to improve braking is to put better springs in the front suspension so you dont bottom out when brakin and have less front end dive. It makes the bike easier to control and shortens your stopping distance.
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Like I said before you can have all the cool brake calipers but if it isnt paired with a good master the full benefit will not be achieved. Harley masters are too hard in the feel department you get no build up in lever pressure its just hard all the way thru.
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Subscribed. New brakes and a hydraulic clutch conversion are next on my list. I'm loving all the tips, keep them coming!
One question, is keeping stock HD ABS an option for going with nice new master cylinders and big brake calipers? Is it even worth trying?
One question, is keeping stock HD ABS an option for going with nice new master cylinders and big brake calipers? Is it even worth trying?
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it can be done but you would need lines built to order if you were going with an aftermarket brembo master as oem Harley and aftermarket brembo need different banjo fittings. Spiegler and core moto should do the trio know as theyll build you any line you need as will magnum. Just make sure to mention you need an abs line
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Thanks for the info
Thanks fellas for the info. Your answers was exactly what i was looking for and are greatly appreciated. I'm going to go with the dual brembo set up and just slowly piece parts togetner over time.
The shitty thing is i just redid my entire front end 6 months ago. I was on the fence about doing all these upgrades then and i should of.
The shitty thing is i just redid my entire front end 6 months ago. I was on the fence about doing all these upgrades then and i should of.
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Bagger Brothers
Has anybody used Bagger Brothers Radial Caliper Mounts? I was ready to buy a set of Speed Merchant mounts for 270$ and i came across Bagger Bros mounts for only 100$ for a set.
As far as i can tell BB doesn't offer mounts for oversized rotors but after reading comments that big rotors could provide too much brake now I'm not sure i want to go with oversized rotors.
I actually plan on making some phone calls to SM and Brembo tomorrow to get more info on the topic of oversized rotors.
Last edited by Valleyofthegun; Mar 4, 2019 at 05:47 AM.
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Has anybody used Bagger Brothers Radial Caliper Mounts? I was ready to buy a set of Speed Merchant mounts for 270$ and i came across Bagger Bros mounts for only 100$ for a set.
As far as i can tell BB doesn't offer mounts for oversized rotors but after reading comments that big rotors could provide too much brake now I'm not sure i want to go with oversized rotors.
I actually plan on making some phone calls to SM and Brembo tomorrow to get more info on the topic of oversized rotors.
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As far as i can tell BB doesn't offer mounts for oversized rotors but after reading comments that big rotors could provide too much brake now I'm not sure i want to go with oversized rotors.
I actually plan on making some phone calls to SM and Brembo tomorrow to get more info on the topic of oversized rotors.
I actually plan on making some phone calls to SM and Brembo tomorrow to get more info on the topic of oversized rotors.
