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Old member returning. Sold my Challenger, back to a dyna, just a few quick questions.

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Old Jan 10, 2023 | 12:12 AM
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Default Old member returning. Sold my Challenger, back to a dyna, just a few quick questions.

I'll make it short and sweet.
I left dyna for a few years and went to Indian Challenger. Well I just bought another 16 dyna, and need to catch back up on the latest and greatest.

So as I said, let's do this short and sweet.

Who's making "the" 2-1 these days? I'm reading Sawaki? Fab 28,? Bassani?
It's a 16 103 bike?

Legend still tops on suspension? How's the Fox stuff? Ohlins outdated yet?

Thanks guys, just bought last night.
Already parts on orderI miss the dyna for 85% of my everyday riding and I had to come back
 
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Old Jan 10, 2023 | 02:35 AM
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[QUOTE=Rollcage;21015487]I'll make it short and sweet.
I left dyna for a few years and went to Indian Challenger. Well I just bought another 16 dyna, and need to catch back up on the latest and greatest.

So as I said, let's do this short and sweet.

Who's making "the" 2-1 these days? I'm reading Sawaki? Fab 28,? Bassani?
It's a 16 103 bike?

Legend still tops on suspension? How's the Fox stuff? Ohlins outdated yet?

Thanks guys, just bought last night.
Already parts on orderI miss the dyna for 85% of my everyday riding and I had to come back[/QUOTE

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Old Jan 10, 2023 | 04:18 AM
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Definitely talk to ProAction.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2023 | 06:01 PM
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I have to ask, why did you dump the Challenger? Indian said it was perfection. 122 horse water cooled.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2023 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Two Lane Tramp
I have to ask, why did you dump the Challenger? Indian said it was perfection. 122 horse water cooled.
​​​​​​A few reasons,
1. It was very frustrating trying to get parts, not just performance parts, but even OEM.
I bent a front rim and was down 8 months.
2. I like the ease of being able to work on my Harleys, in researching it was 8 hours labor to put cams in the Challenger.
3. It's a big bike, and while it wasn't too much by any means, it was just big and bulky for short trips like my daily commute to work which is only 7 miles. Quick barhops with the buddies for bike night seemed more like driving a refrigerator than a hot rod.
4 probably the biggest reason was I miss the sound and feel of a twin cam, it's just fun.
I've had Dynas that are 130/130 so the power wasn't more than a dyna to me, and the bike was heavier, so it didn't seem "that" fast. As far as liquid cooled, yes the motor probably had some longevity, but if I ever needed to work on it, it was either a pita, or had to have the dealer unlock something in the ecm just to upgrade things like lights.

All in all, I miss the fast and loud feel of Harley. I miss the sound, the vibration, the feeling of rolling down the road in something just rumbling and grumbling with the wind in my face. The Challenger was a couch with a windshield that sounded like a Volkswagen Jetta. It wasn't "fun" to me.

​​​​​​Hell of a machine, just needs more aftermarket support, and more and easily available goodies.
 
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Ok, good to hear. I road down to Mexico last year with a group of Fresno motor cops and one of them had the new Challenger. He wouldn't shut up about how great his Indian was. Personally I am a Harley guy to the bone. A couple years ago Hollister Indian was letting you test ride all the new bikes including Victory. I rode 3 of them and they were about as exciting as a John Deere tractor. Nice to hear another opinion.
 
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Originally Posted by Rollcage
​​​​​​A few reasons,
1. It was very frustrating trying to get parts, not just performance parts, but even OEM.
I bent a front rim and was down 8 months.
2. I like the ease of being able to work on my Harleys, in researching it was 8 hours labor to put cams in the Challenger.
3. It's a big bike, and while it wasn't too much by any means, it was just big and bulky for short trips like my daily commute to work which is only 7 miles. Quick barhops with the buddies for bike night seemed more like driving a refrigerator than a hot rod.
4 probably the biggest reason was I miss the sound and feel of a twin cam, it's just fun.
I've had Dynas that are 130/130 so the power wasn't more than a dyna to me, and the bike was heavier, so it didn't seem "that" fast. As far as liquid cooled, yes the motor probably had some longevity, but if I ever needed to work on it, it was either a pita, or had to have the dealer unlock something in the ecm just to upgrade things like lights.

All in all, I miss the fast and loud feel of Harley. I miss the sound, the vibration, the feeling of rolling down the road in something just rumbling and grumbling with the wind in my face. The Challenger was a couch with a windshield that sounded like a Volkswagen Jetta. It wasn't "fun" to me.

​​​​​​Hell of a machine, just needs more aftermarket support, and more and easily available goodies.
Number 5, they're made by Polaris. So, just snowmobiles that someone forgot to put treads and skis on but remembered the "fake" Indian badge.

Number 6, this nonsense. They have about as much lineage to the original Inidan Motorcycle company as I do!

 

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Old Jan 11, 2023 | 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by snake_eyes
Number 5, they're made by Polaris. So, just snowmobiles that someone forgot to put treads and skis on but remembered the "fake" Indian badge.

Number 6, this nonsense. They have about as much lineage to the original Inidan Motorcycle company as I do!

It wasn't about lineage for me, I've owned 5 GSXR's, I own Yamaha snowmobiles, and I drive a Toyota truck.
It was about buying a bike I liked.
It's a hell of a piece of machinery, and will probably outlast many of it's competitors in terms of reliability, it is smart spending.
But it wasn't as fun to me as driving a dyna.
I guess it's apples and oranges, a sport bagger and a basically bobber, but still.
It wasn't "my" cup of tea
 
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Originally Posted by Rollcage
It wasn't about lineage for me, I've owned 5 GSXR's, I own Yamaha snowmobiles, and I drive a Toyota truck.
It was about buying a bike I liked.
It's a hell of a piece of machinery, and will probably outlast many of it's competitors in terms of reliability, it is smart spending.
But it wasn't as fun to me as driving a dyna.
I guess it's apples and oranges, a sport bagger and a basically bobber, but still.
It wasn't "my" cup of tea
Hey man, I just want to be clear that I wasn't trying to rip on you...too each their own. I WAS trying to rip on "Indian". I live in MN and don't like Polaris. When my grandfather was a kid, he used to hop up and race real Indians against his buddies' bikes. The whole "1st motorcycle company" pisses me off. Indian was bought and sold many times over before the snowmobile guys bought them. There were no assets left to purchase, nothing, just the name, so in no way is that the same Indian that was founded in 1901.

It'll be a funny day when the woke mob catches up to them and they're forced to change that precious name.
 

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To each his own. Nuff said.
 
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