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Diagnosing front brake with no pressure after caliper and MC rebuild

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Old Jun 29, 2023 | 03:30 PM
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Rebuilt front MC and caliper on '97 wide glide as it was suggested to me after brake lever was wobbly and MC was gunked up. Followed the directions to a T, but now I'm trying to bleed the brakes and there's a continuous flow of air from the bleeder. Tried the old fashion way and the brake never built pressure or released fluid from the bleeder. Tried using a vacuum pump and after 2 bottles of fluid there's still mostly air with not much fluid. No pressure at the lever at all..

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Old Jun 29, 2023 | 03:35 PM
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Did your rebuild kit include both the master cylinder cylinder insert along with a new piston?

As long as you are keeping fluid in the reservoir, even if it would not pump pressure, all the air would have come out with a vacuum pump.

Obliviously, only way for air in is thru the pushrod end.

However your always going to see a few bubbles leaking past bleeder threads.

If you used old cylinder, it could have had corrosion at bottom and the attempt to bleed with pedal destroyed the new cup seals.

Cap needs to be loose also and that small hole in bottom should make a little wave in fluid when you let off. With brake off, hole should be open to piston cavity. It closes as soon as you push brake pedal.
 

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It was the OEM kit, had the piston, O rings, spring, rubber dust cap, and whatever else comes in the kit. I used the lubricant that came with the kit, also on the caliper piston I used the right grease and I put fresh crush washers on the banjo fittings.
 
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What kinda vacuum pump are you trying to use?
It' can be a pain and troublesome but was the M/cyl bench bled?

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Originally Posted by 2997wideglide
It was the OEM kit, had the piston, O rings, spring, rubber dust cap, and whatever else comes in the kit. I used the lubricant that came with the kit, also on the caliper piston I used the right grease and I put fresh crush washers on the banjo fittings.

lube uh always used brake fluid >
How much and how thick is this lube ___ brake grease??
To much might block off port in M/cyl.


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lube uh always used brake fluid >
How much and how thick is this lube ___ brake grease??
To much might block off port in M/cyl.


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Not much, I dont think it blocked anything because fluid does flow to the caliper when the vacuum pump gives pressure at the bleeder. And when I squeeze the brake lever, I can see either air bubbles move through the holes at the bottom of the MC reservoirs so they seem to be clear.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2023 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by WP50
What kinda vacuum pump are you trying to use?
It' can be a pain and troublesome but was the M/cyl bench bled?

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Some generic one off Amazon. Hard to tell if the vacuum pump loses pressure because of the pump or an air leak at the line/MC. I just pulled the MC again and going to double check it, I'll bench bleed this time. But the volume of air I was getting through the vacuum pump looks like there has to be some kind of leak
 
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Are you 100% sure all the parts went back into the MC in the correct order ?
 
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Reverse bleed it, force fluid through bleeder to reservoir
 
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Originally Posted by WP50
lube uh always used brake fluid >
How much and how thick is this lube ___ brake grease??
To much might block off port in M/cyl.


WP
Check the PDF for OEM overhaul kits. Yes, grease.
 
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