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Old Oct 20, 2024 | 05:23 AM
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Took the cover off of the cam chain. Outside tensioner was gone. Praying for no lose plastic in the oil passage ways.
The only way out of the cam galley is thru the crank roller bearing. Fine stuff small enough to float would have to go thru that bearing , then thru the scavenger side of the oil pump into your oil sump below transmission.

Doubt that would hurt anything. Big pieces are in the bottom of the oil galley. Clean that area when cam plate is off.

If it was a Softail, there is a filter screen in cam plate that should be checked for trash. It's a filter screen for the oil going to balance rotors' bearings and it's chain tensioner. However it's usually clean since oil going thru there came from filter.
 

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Old Oct 20, 2024 | 07:48 AM
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So much for longer life from aftermarket junk. And there really is no upgrade unless you replace cams. Harleys so called SE upgrade sill leaves the link chain on the inner.

And a Hydraulic tensioner on a link chain is worse then the spring one.

Link chains never stop wearing shoe.

Harleys real fix was the roller chain. Once outer links groove in, rollers roll and wear stops. However, the TC tensioner shoe even then is way too small and especially in hot climates hardens from hot oil and the brake.

Then your on the pivot pin shavings in there.

I have been on here awhile. Only seen one USER who did his own work and said he got 50k on a aftermarket shoe.

How you run it has a lot to do with it. I have 50k on the original OEM in mine. See some years ago not get 20k on their original.
 

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Bummer. Guess that fortifies looking sooner for all of us that have replaced those shoes. Maybe 10 to 15k. What was your oil change schedule?
 
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Not bad but should have been more often.
 
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Ok. I've taken everything apart necessary. Rods, lifters, oil pump, rockers. I found a couple of pieces of shoe and small grit. Nothing in the filter so far. Haven't cut into it.
Oil pump looks great.
Cam plate passages are clear.
I checked behind the plate pressure gauge and clear.
Nothing big found after draining the oil.
I plan on pouring more a letting it drain again. Can't hurt.
Odds of dodging a bullet? Thx.
 
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Originally Posted by Shadowjag
Ok. I've taken everything apart necessary. Rods, lifters, oil pump, rockers. I found a couple of pieces of shoe and small grit. Nothing in the filter so far. Haven't cut into it.
Oil pump looks great.
Cam plate passages are clear.
I checked behind the plate pressure gauge and clear.
Nothing big found after draining the oil.
I plan on pouring more a letting it drain again. Can't hurt.
Odds of dodging a bullet? Thx.
Where are all the pieces? I guess the question to ask yourself is; Did you find enough pieces to build that missing shoe?
 
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Cut open the filter. Very small to fine pieces. Not a lot though.


 
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Cut open the filter. Very small to fine pieces. Not a lot though.

The only way out of the cam galley is thru roller bearings. Then one finial milling and rolling process of the return side of the oil pump.

Once in the oil pan under transmission, it's not going thru return side of pump to the filter unless it's floating in pan as it sinks to the bottom of the pan.

Surprised you didn't find some big hunks and it's pin in the cam galley bottom.

Probably ought to inspect pump dimensions and cam roller bearings.
 
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Maybe big enough to clog an oil passage. Look at the size of this oil passage in the camplate. That's a "mister" hole designed to keep the cams wet.

 
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