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Hi guys. As I was working on stability & elimination of high speed wobble on my FXDWG 2012, I considered multiple options of replacing triple trees with some negative rake option, to improve the trail & handling.... The fact I didnt know up until recently is that its 34 degree of rake, is actually combination of 32 deg frame & +2 deg on trees!!! I'm now about to "fix" this by swapping for 0 deg trees and a bit shorter tubes (or just let them protrude a bit on the upper tree). Since I'm strongly about to keep the wide frontend appearance (9.85" of tree width), the first swapping trees option which stumbled upon my mind was a fat bob trees. Yet, I soon discovered that they have -1 degree.... Can you suggest the model & year, from which I should chase the trees, to be 100% compatible with my bike, but to have 0 deg???
For 0-degree trees that keep the wide look, look for 2006-2013 Dyna models like the Street Bob or Super Glide. They typically have standard 0-degree trees and should be a direct swap for your 2012 FXDWG. Avoid Fat Bob trees since they have the -1 degree you don't want. Check parts from those specific years for compatibility.
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Thanks for the headsup The reply is useless anyway Since both street bob & super glide trees are "mid" type (220mm instead of 250mm). Still hoping for some answers from real people ;-)
For 0-degree trees that keep the wide look, look for 2006-2013 Dyna models like the Street Bob or Super Glide. They typically have standard 0-degree trees and should be a direct swap for your 2012 FXDWG. Avoid Fat Bob trees since they have the -1 degree you don't want. Check parts from those specific years for compatibility.
OP dont listen to this poster, its a bot. The Street Bob and Super Glides dont have the wide trees you're looking for.
Seems to me nothing from that era has non-raked wide trees, suitable as a bolt on replacement for FXDWG 2012 Such a shame this modernism crap took over so heavily.... My personal opinion is that trees shouldnt be raked, not even for 1 deg, unless you want stability issues. I'm wondering what would be the outcome with FXDF trees with 1 deg negative rake??? Stumbled upon several people bragging around about improved handling on FXDWG with those... So far I I managed to find only one, aftermarket piece of non raked 250mm trees for my bike, and its some "JoS" brand, costs a fortune and not even offering rubber bushing seats!! I surely aint gonna spend 1k+ for increased vibration
My knowledge is for older Dyna's but maybe it carries over to your year. The wider trees you like are only on the Wide Glide everything else is mid or narrow. Also back when the frames had different rakes along with the raked trees. You should check on that as well. In 1997 if I recall correctly, Super Glides were 28, but Lowriders and Wide Glides 31 degrees of rake in the frame.
So less rake in the trees, but more rake in the frame needs to be considered. I would go to HD OEM Parts Finder and check to see if the frames are the same part #, or maybe someone here knows about frame rake.
I wish I had more definitive info, really just giving you heads up on possible issues, good luck.
My knowledge is for older Dyna's but maybe it carries over to your year. The wider trees you like are only on the Wide Glide everything else is mid or narrow. Also back when the frames had different rakes along with the raked trees. You should check on that as well. In 1997 if I recall correctly, Super Glides were 28, but Lowriders and Wide Glides 31 degrees of rake in the frame.
So less rake in the trees, but more rake in the frame needs to be considered. I would go to HD OEM Parts Finder and check to see if the frames are the same part #, or maybe someone here knows about frame rake.
I wish I had more definitive info, really just giving you heads up on possible issues, good luck.
Thanks for sharing the info, I appreciate the effort! The thing is, I'd like to stick to as less modifications as possible. Besides FXDWG / FXDF, wide glide trees with 49mm forks were also used with a certain softails & breakout.... But I can't find reliable info whether those have an additional rake or not and also if they are compatible with FXDWG's neck (forkstops are my main concern). Even if I have to retrofit an original stem into the new tree, that isnt a big deal, but if I have to modify the trees itself.... That would be a pain in the a**
I've always thought the late model ('06+) Wide Glides had 34 deg rake in the frame, and 3 deg rake in the trees. The HD parts finder lists the frame (part # 47748-10A) as 34 deg rake. Probably irrelevant to this conversation though.
I'm not aware of any WG 49mm trees either aftermarket or OEM that have 0 deg rake.
I'd spend some time measuring your bike, then figure out what affect different trees and fork tube lengths would have on the trail by using this calculator: https://www.rbracing-rsr.com/advchoppercalc.html
Should help you understand why the Wide Glides had raked trees from the factory.
I've always thought the late model ('06+) Wide Glides had 34 deg rake in the frame, and 3 deg rake in the trees. The HD parts finder lists the frame (part # 47748-10A) as 34 deg rake. Probably irrelevant to this conversation though.
I'm not aware of any WG 49mm trees either aftermarket or OEM that have 0 deg rake.
I'd spend some time measuring your bike, then figure out what affect different trees and fork tube lengths would have on the trail by using this calculator: https://www.rbracing-rsr.com/advchoppercalc.html
Should help you understand why the Wide Glides had raked trees from the factory.
Yes, youre right on that 34 deg observation, I missed that the newer FXDWGs have 34 deg on frame (earlier models had 32...). BUT, I think that triple trees have +2 deg (36 deg of total rake), not +3 (at least thats whats being claimed all over the internet...). However, having any sort of altered angle yokes is nothing but trouble, no matter they adjusted everything else to hurt less. We're talking about different offset between upper / lower triangle, and that can never be as good as perfectly parallel neck stem VS fork tubes. Same sort of discussion as if we were analyzing crippled right side lean angle due to ridiculously low mufflers position on those models (solved that with V&H Big Shots)... I'm trying to squeeze every bit of handling / stability potential from this bike, and that definitely includes triple tree rake elimination along with appropriate fork tubes length reduction. The final result will still be quite a nice, stretched bike (34 deg of rake VS 29 deg for FXDB, for example), without unnecessary yokes offset difference, therefore I strongly believe there has to be a lot of handling improvement in that modification....
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