Fuel management question
Road Warrior
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From: Backwoods of NH
RE: Fuel management question
Well said Greg - lots of options at different price points for fuel management, all with their own pros and cons as outlined in many previous posts. I decided to go with the SERT and a dyno tune to max my bike's potential and I'm extremely happy with the set-up, but that was just me, others may differ - LOL! Just try to think ahead and get lots of advice from friends and local tuners that are knowledgeable and experienced. You may hear conflicting advice, but in the end one option will win out when you take price/flexibility into account. Just don't ask me to tell you which is right for you - kinda a Ford vs. Chevy argument, and I always vote for BMW! 
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RE: Fuel management question
Dam Greg I lost my Pic.....I'll have tospend another 68.00 to getanother to get a new Pic.. 
ORIGINAL: 2007fxdc
I have the exact same bike as you. At one point, in the past, it looked almost exactly like yours too - see pic.
Anyway, this is a discussion and potential argument that there is no definitive answer and/or winner, IMO. As with most mods you consider for your bike, you need to just gather as much info as possible and make your own educated decision about what is best for you. That's what I love about this site - plenty of info with which you can make informed decisions. But, here's my 2 cents in any case...
I've had at least slipons since the beginning (Nov '06), almost. A few months ago I decided to change to V&H straightshots for a different look and better sound (IMO) over the SE II's I had before. I also made a decision at that time to do something about the fuel management. Based on price, ease of installation, and ease of use, I decided on the fuelpak. Another deciding factor for me was to ask myself if I ever intended to go further than stage 1 on my bike and the answer was a definitive NO. I also had no interest in dyno-tuning mine like a NASA space shuttle. I called V&H's tech support to find out more about the product and they told me that fuelpak doesn't work right without a stage 1 air cleaner. So, I found and ordered the a/c and the fuelpak from the same online resource and got them together in one box. I installed them myself and programmed the fuelpak for stock ECM, stage 1 a/c (high flow), and V&H's straightshots. The bike ran great with no popping, etc. Not long ago, I decided to go ahead and get the V&H Big Radius pipes I'd always wanted. Dealer installed and reprogrammed my fuelpak for me. Had some popping on the way home. Checked everything the next day and found they had programmed the fuelpak wrong. When I fixed it and recalibrated the throttle in the FP, the bike now runs great and I have no popping issues.
Anyway, I told you that to tell you this: if you think you'll ever want to go past stage 1 in the future, go ahead and go with a PCIII or a SERT. It will cost you more but the fuelpak isn't really made for that IMO. If you feel the need to get your bike dyno-tuned to get the absolute most out of your setup, go ahead and go witha PCIII or a SERT. The fuelpak is not a tunable device. You are given one fixed map for your specific setup and that's that. However, if you are trying to go stage 1 with a reliable, yet relatively inexpensive, setup, fuelpak is an option for you. I'm happy with mine but I realize and acknowledge that "I got what I got" and I can't tune it any farther and I wouldn't want to use it if I ever want to "soup" up my engine any further.
These pix look familiar? LOL - nice bike.
[IMG]local://upfiles/41150/9FD9344A5D6047EA9FA70A1F0167B0EB.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]local://upfiles/41150/E7894DBE26C04AB6BD4CD54E9B27E568.jpg[/IMG]
I have the exact same bike as you. At one point, in the past, it looked almost exactly like yours too - see pic.
Anyway, this is a discussion and potential argument that there is no definitive answer and/or winner, IMO. As with most mods you consider for your bike, you need to just gather as much info as possible and make your own educated decision about what is best for you. That's what I love about this site - plenty of info with which you can make informed decisions. But, here's my 2 cents in any case...
I've had at least slipons since the beginning (Nov '06), almost. A few months ago I decided to change to V&H straightshots for a different look and better sound (IMO) over the SE II's I had before. I also made a decision at that time to do something about the fuel management. Based on price, ease of installation, and ease of use, I decided on the fuelpak. Another deciding factor for me was to ask myself if I ever intended to go further than stage 1 on my bike and the answer was a definitive NO. I also had no interest in dyno-tuning mine like a NASA space shuttle. I called V&H's tech support to find out more about the product and they told me that fuelpak doesn't work right without a stage 1 air cleaner. So, I found and ordered the a/c and the fuelpak from the same online resource and got them together in one box. I installed them myself and programmed the fuelpak for stock ECM, stage 1 a/c (high flow), and V&H's straightshots. The bike ran great with no popping, etc. Not long ago, I decided to go ahead and get the V&H Big Radius pipes I'd always wanted. Dealer installed and reprogrammed my fuelpak for me. Had some popping on the way home. Checked everything the next day and found they had programmed the fuelpak wrong. When I fixed it and recalibrated the throttle in the FP, the bike now runs great and I have no popping issues.
Anyway, I told you that to tell you this: if you think you'll ever want to go past stage 1 in the future, go ahead and go with a PCIII or a SERT. It will cost you more but the fuelpak isn't really made for that IMO. If you feel the need to get your bike dyno-tuned to get the absolute most out of your setup, go ahead and go witha PCIII or a SERT. The fuelpak is not a tunable device. You are given one fixed map for your specific setup and that's that. However, if you are trying to go stage 1 with a reliable, yet relatively inexpensive, setup, fuelpak is an option for you. I'm happy with mine but I realize and acknowledge that "I got what I got" and I can't tune it any farther and I wouldn't want to use it if I ever want to "soup" up my engine any further.
These pix look familiar? LOL - nice bike.
[IMG]local://upfiles/41150/9FD9344A5D6047EA9FA70A1F0167B0EB.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]local://upfiles/41150/E7894DBE26C04AB6BD4CD54E9B27E568.jpg[/IMG]
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RE: Fuel management question
I almost went with the SERT but decided to go with a TV II, The Terminal Velocity II requires no dynoing and it adjusts the ECU as needed. Me and three of my buddies installed them and they work. It lowered the temp of the engine and richened up the mixture. Do a search here and you will find people are more than happy with their results they received from the TVII. I think I paid around $350 for it if I remember correctly.
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RE: Fuel management question
ORIGINAL: Trotter
Dam Greg I lost my Pic.....I'll have tospend another 68.00 to getanother to get a new Pic..
Dam Greg I lost my Pic.....I'll have tospend another 68.00 to getanother to get a new Pic..
With that said, I have to admit... I'm hearing of guys now buying the PCIII's online for not much more than I paid for my FP. If that had been the case, or I had at least known about it at the time, I would have probably gone ahead and gotten the PCIII. My bike seems to be running great right now but I'm also out of inexpensive mod ideas for it as well. So, I might get the bug to change to a PCIII and get it dyno-tuned sometime this year. However, I won't be filing my FP in the "cylindrical folder" like Trotter did - it will be for sale instead. (Must be nice to be able to throw money away
).
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From: Backwoods of NH
RE: Fuel management question
Sorry to hijack - but Skip had a question/comment for ya - I left it over in the July MD Rally "Anyone else gong" resurrected post, likely well into page 3 by now:
https://www.hdforums.com/m_1853837/tm.htm
PM is ok, no need to take up space here if ya got any ideas.
https://www.hdforums.com/m_1853837/tm.htm
PM is ok, no need to take up space here if ya got any ideas.
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RE: Fuel management question
2007fxdc.....You sure that's not mybike you have a picture of in your attachment...or....maybe that's your bike in my sig!!! You definately have a good look'nride there!!
I want to thank you and everyone else that replied, for the great info!! Looks like I going to spend some money now!!! In addition to what we've been talking about, I'm going to give Leather Pros a call and get some bags!!! Where did all the money go??
Talk to y'all later!!
I want to thank you and everyone else that replied, for the great info!! Looks like I going to spend some money now!!! In addition to what we've been talking about, I'm going to give Leather Pros a call and get some bags!!! Where did all the money go??
Talk to y'all later!!
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