110 octane???
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Tourer
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From: Marion, Ia
Never claimed to be a chemist. Just a refiner that happens to work with gasoline and other hydrocarbon products on a daily basis. Chemistry degree is coming along though, thanks for asking. Also, never claimed to be a A&P mechanic either but thanks again for your concern. That was how it was explained to me by, yes an A&P mechanic. But overall, I am glad to see that you hold both titles as Chemmist and airframe mechanic. We'll have to keep your versitality in mind when it comes to obscure questions that most can't answer.
Working in a lab at a refinery as well as operations has given me sometime to learn more than the average Joe about gasoline. I work with testing octane ratings as it is being made. Also, testing raw gsaoline for C4's and lighter hydrocarbons that can still be recovered to send off to the polyporpelene unit and taking the C2's out all together. But I'm sure you know how the basic distillation process in a refinery works.
I do know the products that I work with daily. Like I mentioned earlier, the refinery that your in might add lubricants to AVGAS later down the line after it hits sales but ours doesn't. I'm not as versed as to how other refiners finish their products prior to blending or sales. Thanks for setting me straight in the petrochemical industry.
Working in a lab at a refinery as well as operations has given me sometime to learn more than the average Joe about gasoline. I work with testing octane ratings as it is being made. Also, testing raw gsaoline for C4's and lighter hydrocarbons that can still be recovered to send off to the polyporpelene unit and taking the C2's out all together. But I'm sure you know how the basic distillation process in a refinery works.
I do know the products that I work with daily. Like I mentioned earlier, the refinery that your in might add lubricants to AVGAS later down the line after it hits sales but ours doesn't. I'm not as versed as to how other refiners finish their products prior to blending or sales. Thanks for setting me straight in the petrochemical industry.
Ok guys lets all just get along, I have been noticing a lot of tension on the forums latey more then usual for this site, I like being able to post a question and not be made to look like a dumb A$$ and voice my opion with out getting into a argument with someone else over it, besides I heard somewhere that "Arguing over the internet is like running in the special olympics no matter who wins your still retarded."
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From: St. Charles, MO
LOL Ok guys lets all just get along, I have been noticing a lot of tension on the forums latey more then usual for this site, I like being able to post a question and not be made to look like a dumb A$$ and voice my opion with out getting into a argument with someone else over it, besides I heard somewhere that "Arguing over the internet is like running in the special olympics no matter who wins your still retarded."
Ok guys lets all just get along, I have been noticing a lot of tension on the forums latey more then usual for this site, I like being able to post a question and not be made to look like a dumb A$$ and voice my opion with out getting into a argument with someone else over it, besides I heard somewhere that "Arguing over the internet is like running in the special olympics no matter who wins your still retarded."IMHO it's not ok to post bad info on a technical site like this. Sombody else will read it and think they've screwed themselves for no apparent reason. If you're going to make a statement, be prepared to back it up.
Cruiser
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Now I know they're not the same animals but...I run several 2 stroke dirt bike & snowmobiles & in the past I have always run Premium octane in small motors until recently. Higher octane burns hotter than lower or mid grade, this heat make a bigger difference in pre-mix 2 strokes but I would imagine that since the 96"er is "allegedly" having heat problems wouldn't lower octane help?
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Now I know they're not the same animals but...I run several 2 stroke dirt bike & snowmobiles & in the past I have always run Premium octane in small motors until recently. Higher octane burns hotter than lower or mid grade, this heat make a bigger difference in pre-mix 2 strokes but I would imagine that since the 96"er is "allegedly" having heat problems wouldn't lower octane help?
This is what I'm talking about. Higher octane ratings don't equate to 'hotter' anything. Hotter what? Lower flash point? Hotter temperature?
Neither.
Higher octane (rating, since other additive besides octane perform the same function) slows down the flame front in the combustion chamber, controlling the burn rate short of detonation.
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LOL Ok guys lets all just get along, I have been noticing a lot of tension on the forums latey more then usual for this site, I like being able to post a question and not be made to look like a dumb A$$ and voice my opion with out getting into a argument with someone else over it, besides I heard somewhere that "Arguing over the internet is like running in the special olympics no matter who wins your still retarded."
Ok guys lets all just get along, I have been noticing a lot of tension on the forums latey more then usual for this site, I like being able to post a question and not be made to look like a dumb A$$ and voice my opion with out getting into a argument with someone else over it, besides I heard somewhere that "Arguing over the internet is like running in the special olympics no matter who wins your still retarded."been taught in my apprenticeship. Oh well... Just somethings I have noticed at my job. Others here that work in the petrochemical industry and refining industry see it differently. I for one agree with the "Arguing over the internet is like running in the special olympics no matter who wins your still retarded".
Any ways, im in no mood for BS anymore. Just got back from a long *** ride with a new buddy. Had fun and now it's time for bed.
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From: Diamond bar, California
I just want to add, that in an internal combustion engine that is jetted (carbed) or FI and it is tuned for lets say 91 oct. fuel and then you put a higher oct. in as stated above the detonation threshold is increased.
and your dealer and Indy teck are both wrong about running leaner, the engine accually thinks its richer! and you need to lean out the fuel curve when setting up for 100 plus oct.
and your dealer and Indy teck are both wrong about running leaner, the engine accually thinks its richer! and you need to lean out the fuel curve when setting up for 100 plus oct.
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