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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Gary7
It looks to me like what they are trying to accomplish with that bolt is basically what the upper OEM stabilizer does, i.e, prevent lateral movement of the engine on a vertical axis. If the upper OEM stabilizer is doing its job, you should not need to use that bolt on the front stabilizer.
Having completed the basic install on our Dyna (it is actually my wife's) I sat on the ground reading the instructions again and staring at the bike and that 'adjuster' bolt. The instructions about it didn't make sense to me and I could see no purpose for it. Any contact between that bolt and the moving bracket is going to cause intermittent vibration, so I reasoned that the further apart they are kept the better!

Experience a few days later, when the bolt came loose, confirmed my suspicions. I really have left it in place just to fill the hole it is threaded into.

Before fitting the stabilizer kit the engine was quite happy sitting on its rubber mountings, as the factory installed it. Fitting the kit has not changed anything that alters vertical clearances, so I reckoned the bike would be OK without that bolt getting in the way. We are both very happy with the improved ride and comfort, as the bike is in the photo.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by grbrown
Having completed the basic install on our Dyna (it is actually my wife's) I sat on the ground reading the instructions again and staring at the bike and that 'adjuster' bolt. The instructions about it didn't make sense to me and I could see no purpose for it. Any contact between that bolt and the moving bracket is going to cause intermittent vibration, so I reasoned that the further apart they are kept the better!

Experience a few days later, when the bolt came loose, confirmed my suspicions. I really have left it in place just to fill the hole it is threaded into.

Before fitting the stabilizer kit the engine was quite happy sitting on its rubber mountings, as the factory installed it. Fitting the kit has not changed anything that alters vertical clearances, so I reckoned the bike would be OK without that bolt getting in the way. We are both very happy with the improved ride and comfort, as the bike is in the photo.
I'm getting ready to order the True-Track system and have saved all the posts regarding installation, etc. I am also getting a new rear tire mounted soon and the HD tech said he was put the rear bracked on at that time as it appears it would be easier to do with the rear tire off. My question is what is the purpose of that adjuster bolt anyway. Is the best thing to do is to tightend it down as far as it will go and lock it with the lock nut? Your posts were the first to acknowledge the adjuster bold issue from all those who have put up True-Track posts.

Thanks to all of you for the great infor. BTW--just talked to Ron--they are extending the HD Forum group buy until the end of January.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 01:12 PM
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I'm getting ready to order the True-Track system and have saved all the posts regarding installation, etc. I am also getting a new rear tire mounted soon and the HD tech said he was put the rear bracked on at that time as it appears it would be easier to do with the rear tire off. My question is what is the purpose of that adjuster bolt anyway. Is the best thing to do is to tightend it down as far as it will go and lock it with the lock nut? Your posts were the first to acknowledge the adjuster bold issue from all those who have put up True-Track posts.

Thanks to all of you for the great infor. BTW--just talked to Ron--they are extending the HD Forum group buy until the end of January.
If Ron works at TrueTrack you might ask him to explain about that bolt!

I have to admit it is not clear to me what purpose it serves. Certainly I have bolted it down out of the way, so it can make no contact with the other TrueTrack bracket. I live in the UK and accept that when ordering special bike parts like these from the US that I have to sort out any problems myself. I did email TrueTrack but got no useful answers from them, but I didn't phone them.

I would like to hear from other TrueTrack owners to read what they have done with it!
 
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 01:49 PM
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As a forum sponsor it would be nice if True Track would sign on and answer some of the questions posed. It might clear up some of the misconceptions and allegations?
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by grbrown
Having completed the basic install on our Dyna (it is actually my wife's) I sat on the ground reading the instructions again and staring at the bike and that 'adjuster' bolt. The instructions about it didn't make sense to me and I could see no purpose for it. Any contact between that bolt and the moving bracket is going to cause intermittent vibration, so I reasoned that the further apart they are kept the better!

Experience a few days later, when the bolt came loose, confirmed my suspicions. I really have left it in place just to fill the hole it is threaded into.

Before fitting the stabilizer kit the engine was quite happy sitting on its rubber mountings, as the factory installed it. Fitting the kit has not changed anything that alters vertical clearances, so I reckoned the bike would be OK without that bolt getting in the way. We are both very happy with the improved ride and comfort, as the bike is in the photo.
TT calls it a Vertical travel limiter and it appears to me it does need to have a certain amount of travel to limit the torque twist of the engine under acceleration? Maybe your front mount is worn/weak and it twists too easily and you need to replace it? The TT website does state, "Note: Check for Failed Motor Mounts". There have been quite a few threads/posts on failed or failing front mounts.
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by cbz1200n
TT calls it a Vertical travel limiter and it appears to me it does need to have a certain amount of travel to limit the torque twist of the engine under acceleration? Maybe your front mount is worn/weak and it twists too easily and you need to replace it? The TT website does state, "Note: Check for Failed Motor Mounts". There have been quite a few threads/posts on failed or failing front mounts.
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I have been round that topic with TT at the time of fitting the kit. If the mount was worn or weak the bike would handle like a bitch and the motor slumped in the frame. But all is well (had it checked by our local Harley dealer) and you can see a healthy clearance between the TT brackets.

The bike didn't have a limiter before fitting the kit and we don't ride the bike on the limit. The kit is great for its improvements, but I remain mystified by the benefit of that bolt!
 
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by cbz1200n
TT calls it a Vertical travel limiter and it appears to me it does need to have a certain amount of travel to limit the torque twist of the engine under acceleration?
That makes sense. The TC96 will rock back in the mounts pretty good under heavy acceleration load. It may, if fact, move enough on the vertical to over-stress those True-Track stabilizer link connections. With that bolt set where TT says put it, they may be trying to prevent the engine from moving enough to over-stress the stabilizer by twisting it further than its designed to go.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary7
That makes sense. The TC96 will rock back in the mounts pretty good under heavy acceleration load. It may, if fact, move enough on the vertical to over-stress those True-Track stabilizer link connections. With that bolt set where TT says put it, they may be trying to prevent the engine from moving enough to over-stress the stabilizer by twisting it further than its designed to go.
I still haven't figured out what they are saying to measure to/from on the valve cover/frame measurement. What are they talking about? Measure what?
 
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Newhawk
I still haven't figured out what they are saying to measure to/from on the valve cover/frame measurement. What are they talking about? Measure what?
I couldn't figure it out either, which is why I decided to ignore it and screw the 'adjuster' right down. If that adjuster bolt ever contacts the other bracket it will cause serious vibration, which we found out the hard way. The engine is rubber mounted by the factory to reduce vibration!

That bolt is a serious distraction from the improvements the kit provides when riding the bike and it would be helpful if TrueTrack would explain it fully. My wife has been riding her Dyna for about nine months and we can see no reason to change what we have done with that bolt!
 
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Newhawk
I still haven't figured out what they are saying to measure to/from on the valve cover/frame measurement. What are they talking about? Measure what?
Installing the TT forces the engine to move only on the vertical plane. As you know, the Dyna frame is a tight fit for the big twin. What they are telling you to measure is the distance of the rocker boxes to the bottom of the gas tank on the front cylinder and the rocker box to frame distance of the rear cylinder.
That adjustment bolt on the front mount, from what I can tell, is to give you the ability to stop the vertical/rearward travel of the top of the engine before it hits either the bottom of the fuel tank or the frame where it curves downward from the backbone to the cradle.
It may be that even with the adjustment bolt backed all the way down that the engine will not contact the frame or the tank but obviously you aren't going to be able to look and see if it's touching under full throttle acceleration from first gear, when the engine mounts are under their heaviest torque load. Now if it does touch the frame/tank you will know by the scars on the rocker boxes or a dent in your tank or paint chipped off the frame wherever the two contacted.
As to exactly where that measurement is to be taken; where you see the smallest gap.
I hope I have correctly cleared the mystery of the stop adjustment, if not, I hope someone does a better job than I.
 
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