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Whhoopps i forgot to mention i do have a stage 1, it was installed before i got the bike, it orginally had rinehart slipons.
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I think that going from a 2-2 into a 2-1, even with the stock air cleaner, will still improve the performance of the bike over a stock 2-2. Although moot cause he has the stage 1. To me it should be similar to changing a stage1 bike from the 2-2 to 2-1. Just speculating though.
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I think that going from a 2-2 into a 2-1, even with the stock air cleaner, will still improve the performance of the bike over a stock 2-2. Although moot cause he has the stage 1. To me it should be similar to changing a stage1 bike from the 2-2 to 2-1. Just speculating though.
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come on....Folks, a restriction anywhere in the flow-path (intake, heads/cam/valves, exhaust) will limit the amount of air the engine can pump. If you don't look at the system as a whole, you're just kidding yourself into thinking you've got "major HP gain" by installing a single component.
Think of it like this: Let's say you have a 3 foot tube. The first foot represents the intake, the 2nd would represent the head/cam/valves... 3rd the exhaust. If you blow in the end of the tube, it doesn't matter where the restriction is, the flow through the entire tube normalizes and is reduced to what the restriction can flow.
I understand the system I want eventually, but I need to buy one piece at a time for now. I hold no outrageous expectations over slowly "stepping" the system up.
I'm also using the TTS, and I'll tell you the Stage.1 remap from the MoCo is crap. I realize now just how bad the bike vibrated because of that map.
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Everybody talks about restrictions but has anyone seen the flow numbers to determine where they are? A stock 96ci engine at 6000 rpm and 75% VE will only flow about 188 cfm. Does anyone know what the stock intake and air box will flow? I don't know either but I'm just curious if someone has some flow bench numbers.
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Everybody talks about restrictions but has anyone seen the flow numbers to determine where they are? A stock 96ci engine at 6000 rpm and 75% VE will only flow about 188 cfm. Does anyone know what the stock intake and air box will flow? I don't know either but I'm just curious if someone has some flow bench numbers.
My thoughts are such that if I bought a new H-D with FI (I have a carb) I would just get a K&N filter and 2-1 exhaust. Also xied's to lower the afr from the 14.7:1 . Seems like the most cost effective way to increase the output of the engine without really giving up much vs the tuner, stage 1 intake,and dyno method. Is an extra 400+ dollars really worth the couple HP. you may gain?
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