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Finally, Good News - Inner Primary Bearing

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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by KBFXDLI
Well, I got mine back from the shop today. Got the new IPB the new trans case and new inner primary case. They replaced the entire assembly and starter gear and front belt pulley/sprocket as well. I paid for a new rotor/stator and the upgraded primary chain tensioner and the MoCo paid for the rest. Rode the bike about 20 miles and the primary has never been this quiet. I am very satisfied and impressed that the MoCo stepped up and did the entire repair.
That's good to hear because we all know how they can pull that crap about not being part of the recall/service bulletin unless you have a complete failure..

Chalk one up for the good guys !!!
 
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Old Nov 19, 2010 | 05:44 AM
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After picking up the Dyna in my sig pic about 6 weeks ago, and noticing that the primary seemed a bit "loud" at idle/neutral, ....not a scraping higher pitch noise like mentioned in this thread...metal roller skate wheel or ..like I've heard throwout bearings on cars often, but a lower pitched...whirr. Pull clutch in, noise goes away. Let clutch out, noise comes back. Drop her into 1st...big "clunk"...bike nudges forward an inch..no noise. Go for a ride for at least a 1/2 hour, noise pretty much goes away next time you're in neutral.

Buddy of mine that has a softtail and took my bike for a ride last week said the primary is noisy at higher speeds on the road. <==would that still be IPB related?

Anyways, after getting my bike recently and noticing the slight noise and finding the threads on the IPB...I went to my local HD dealer, the service manager was familiar with the Dyna bearing issue, head mechanic was there and talked about the lack of the 2 dowels. But the manager said two things. *My bike is out of warranty, and *It has to be replaced by the owner two times before Harley picks up the tab.

I asked him what it would approx cost me..he said about 11 hundred all done. His mechanic added should also change the shaft bearing at that time. (sounds like they're going to pad the bill with lots of extras which will jack the price up)

My first Harley. Picked it up about 6 weeks ago from eBay sale out of state. Wicked clean bike, appears very well taken care of, 11,500 on the od.

I noticed in this thread (or maybe another IPB related thread here) that not all 06 Dynas are affected...that makes me think that they changed parts to address the issue part way through the production year, like maybe bikes made in the last 6 months of the year have the 2 dowels or a totally different IPB setup?

My noise it not obnoxiously loud, it's not noticeable from across the street, doesn't squeal/high pitch chatter like a throwout bearing on a car, lower in pitch than a metal roller skate wheel being spun.

Some friends with Harleys mentioned that this particular dealer near me is quite a ripoff, one or two had bad stories about their bikes being serviced at this place (it's a Mikes Famous) many of them take theirs for service at another better dealer about 1 hour away (tsi columbia). Guess I'll make a trip up to that dealer next, see what they say.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2010 | 11:42 AM
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Thats AWSOME news. Congrds pimp.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2010 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by YeOldeStonecat
...I went to my local HD dealer... But the manager said... *It has to be replaced by the owner two times before Harley picks up the tab. .
Total BS. The MOCO won't do the "Full Monty" until the bearing is replaced ONCE and fails a second time. But they will pay for the first failure also. Do your homework and read all the posts relating to IPB on the HD Forum. Make copies of the TWO service letters Harley sent (found on this forum). Call the MOCO customer service. Be polite but knowledgeable. Go back to the dealer. If they don't change their tune, go to another dealer. You will get it done on the MOCOs dime if you are persistent. Some forum members have got the Full Monty totally free, some (mice elf included) have had to pay an "administration fee" of around $100. Even if you did the work yourself (replacing just the IPB) it would cost you at least that much in parts alone. Plus you either have to buy or rent a puller to get the inner race off, or you have to cut/grind it off - not fun.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 03:15 PM
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Update....I started doing my homework. I asked the guy who sold me the bike where he got it from, and mentioned that I thought the primary was a bit loud, and that I found out on various forum that the 06 Dynas had a primary issue. He said that he read about that also, and that the dealer that he bought it from (Bergen County Harley/BMW in New Jersey) said that they had performed that work on the Dyna he bought from them. He purchased it "used" from them, he said the bike had 2500 miles on it or something low like that when he bought it.

So I sent an e-mail to service at Bergen County, with a blurb about the IPB, I included the VIN of the bike, and asked them if they could provide details of any tranny/IPB related work they did. I did get a reply the next day, below is what the service manager e-mailed me...
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" Campaign:
0124
Description:
RCL:06 DYNA TRANSMISSION
Bulletin:
M-1183A
Campaign Start Date:
12/12/2005
Status:
Complete
Status Date:
01/19/06

The above was done at 1236miles. It included an inner primary race. We also did a 10k service.
I find the forums very entertaining. When the 06 Dyna came out they wanted to see how well the bearings would wear so they put out a bulletin to the dealers to replace the bearing at 15k and send the old one back. They got enough of a sample back and they were happy so the cancelled the bulletin. Hope this was a help."
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I cannot find any info on what "M-1183A" is, nor what "Campaign 0124" is..guessing that's just a work order.
 

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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 04:46 PM
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"...When the 06 Dyna came out they wanted to see how well the bearings would wear so they put out a bulletin to the dealers to replace the bearing at 15k and send the old one back. They got enough of a sample back and they were happy so the cancelled the bulletin..."
Now that's some funny sheeit!
 
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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by QehQeh
Now that's some funny sheeit!
That is true. I have both of the letters from the MoCo. They are both posted on the forum here somewhere. The 15000 mile replacment letter was an addendum to my owners manual. The letters are on post #79 in this thread.
 

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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by YeOldeStonecat
Update....I started doing my homework. I asked the guy who sold me the bike where he got it from, and mentioned that I thought the primary was a bit loud, and that I found out on various forum that the 06 Dynas had a primary issue. He said that he read about that also, and that the dealer that he bought it from (Bergen County Harley/BMW in New Jersey) said that they had performed that work on the Dyna he bought from them. He purchased it "used" from them, he said the bike had 2500 miles on it or something low like that when he bought it.

So I sent an e-mail to service at Bergen County, with a blurb about the IPB, I included the VIN of the bike, and asked them if they could provide details of any tranny/IPB related work they did. I did get a reply the next day, below is what the service manager e-mailed me...
******************************************
" Campaign:
0124
Description:
RCL:06 DYNA TRANSMISSION
Bulletin:
M-1183A
Campaign Start Date:
12/12/2005
Status:
Complete
Status Date:
01/19/06

The above was done at 1236miles. It included an inner primary race. We also did a 10k service.
I find the forums very entertaining. When the 06 Dyna came out they wanted to see how well the bearings would wear so they put out a bulletin to the dealers to replace the bearing at 15k and send the old one back. They got enough of a sample back and they were happy so the cancelled the bulletin. Hope this was a help."
*********************
I cannot find any info on what "M-1183A" is, nor what "Campaign 0124" is..guessing that's just a work order.
Look at post #79 on this thread for the letters about that campaign.
 

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Old Nov 30, 2010 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by KBFXDLI
...I have both of the letters from the MoCo...The 15000 mile replacment letter was an addendum to my owners manual...
Yes, of course.

"They got enough of a sample back and they were happy so they cancelled the bulletin."

That is the funny part. Here is a photo of my first IBP race at 14,000 miles.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2010 | 10:06 PM
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Yes, of course.

"They got enough of a sample back and they were happy so they cancelled the bulletin."

That is the funny part. Here is a photo of my first IBP race at 14,000 miles.
Oh I don't doubt it. But what they did was a statistical sample and got back enough good ones to prevent warranting a recall by the NHTSA.
 
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