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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 03:02 PM
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If I wanted to hand paint my bob's tank, what would I need to do (and don't give me the answer I already know-go to a pro). At least for the time I own my Bob I'd like to further personalize it by leaving my own mark on it. I'd even go so far as to say I'd buy another stock tank for it if i ever decide to sell, trade or otherwise get rid of it. What would the I have to do for surface prep? I hope not much. I watched a guy on the speed channel custom hand paint his Yukon SUV over the paint without any prep other than cleaning it. What type of paint can you use and where would I get it?

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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 05:28 PM
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I guess the only real difference is the clear coat is flat, not gloss. Never heard of anyone not prepping an area for paint (on cured, old paint). Would peel at some point I would think.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 05:50 PM
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Grunt is right, painting is an art, that's why some get the big dollars. It's my understanding that prep is were it's all about? Never heard of just spraying over?? Eric
 
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 06:46 PM
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Yeah, you are definitely right about prep when it comes to spraying. What I saw the other day was a guy hand painting with a brush which is what I'm interested in. This guy was doing some pin striping and other cool stuff by hand, with a brush-like a samll artists brush.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 07:36 PM
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First of all you did answer your own question (take it to a pro).
The factory uses a 2 part acrylic urethane paint produced by PPG.
It mixes 4 parts paint to 1 part activator. Thus calling it a 1 stage paint.
Harley Part #986098BYM paint, #99825-02 activator. I just did a custom
rear fender on mine a couple of months ago. I had to order from
my dealer because it is still not listed on PPG charts.I guess MOCO does not want
local paint and body shops to get their hands on it yet.
The Black Denim has no clear coat. If you were to wet sand the area you
want to personalize to get a tooth for the new paint to stick you would
be actually sanding into your color coat.If you paint it with a brush it will
leave an edge (like putting a pinstripe on a new car) I really don't think
it would be very durable. I hope this wasn't too discouraging just hate
to see someone mess up a new bike because they weren't informed.

Good luck,
Let us know how it turns out

Kevin
 
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 07:50 PM
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I bought a cobalt blue bob and painted it satin black a few weeks later, I am a painter and i can tell you that 90% of the work in any paint job is the prep. That being said the paint i used was a single stage product from hot hues called hot rod black. It is pretty much identical to the stock street bob matte black, so its out there. As far as hand painting or painting it with an old mop its your bike man do whatever makes you happy, if in the end you hate it, take the tank wet sand it buy the product i just mentioned and spray it. Its pretty hard to mess up spraying a single stage flat black.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 07:53 PM
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Hey-no-yeah yer right and i appreciate what your saying. That's exactly what I was looking for and not neccesaril what i want to hear. The last thing I'd want to do is mess up the Bob.
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 12:00 AM
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Don't be scared,,Just do it !!!!!
 
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Better let it be. Tried that once. Time I got thru it looked like it had been painted with a live chicken,buffed with a pinecone and polished with a rock.

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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 12:42 AM
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If yer talkin bout pinstripin' thats a whole different animal. You're going to want to practice a whole lot before commiting something to your bike for good. Getting that symmetry down is one of the hard things with stripin. Once that One-Shot acrylic dries, good luck getting it off. Get yerself some books on pinstriping first, and get acquainted with what types of brushes there are (and they ARE specific to pinstriping) and what paints to use and how to prep the surface. Stabilo pencils are your friend. You can find cheap basic books on it at www.mooneyes.com
 
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