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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 10:53 PM
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I have read three articles and the HD specs on the 07 changes.
Am I reading this right that they have put even larger bearings
and further strengthened the case on the 07 six speed ?

I really have no concern on the bigger engine but I have always
been concerned about the potential inner bearing problem on the 06's trans
HD would not have put out a notice that we had to sign when we purchased
the early 06 Dyna's had there not been a potential problem. This is too risky for
them (not to inform owners)and they were covering their butts (in my humble opinion).
My guess would be that they changed the bearing after a few months production
and it is not a concern now. Maybe QC picked up a bad lot of bearings that went into the
1st few production bikes and after testing they found them OK after that.
But obviously if they have changed the case and bearings the very next year they must
suspect there could be failures on the early 06 Dyna Six Speeds.
They are not going to talk about it anymore than they have to that is for sure.

What'cha think ?

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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 08:40 AM
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Moving it back to the top hoping to get a response
 
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 10:38 AM
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Well, I am having a problem internally with my trans at 1800 miles on a 06 FXDWG...haven't found out what has failed, but having a lose shifting problem...I also noticed they changed a shifter spring and roller arm on the new one...wonder what that has to do with the tranny...
 
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 10:54 AM
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Well, I am having a problem internally with my trans at 1800 miles on a 06 FXDWG...haven't found out what has failed, but having a lose shifting problem...I also noticed they changed a shifter spring and roller arm on the new one...wonder what that has to do with the tranny...
Can you describe what you mean by "lose shifting problem"?? Curious.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 11:00 AM
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Copied from Trans Forum where I posted originally.

2006 Wide Glide with 1800 miles on it. I started her up and went about a mile down the road, I am in third gear and when I shift to 2nd I hear a weird clickity sound and the bikes shifter lever stays down and doesn't reset to the normal position. So I reach my boot back down and kick the lever back up to its normal position and its still in 2nd. I then Click it down again and the lever stays down, but its in first. I pull over to the side of the road and I reach down and move the shifter rod back and forth and it has a good amount of play and will shift between 1st, neutral, and second by just moving the rod without pulling the clutch in. I am imagining the tension has somehow gotten screwed on the rod, but man how can this happen with, so little mileage. I had the 1k service done 16 days ago and put 800 miles I figure if it was the mechanic not tightening it down or something it would have came up by now....What do I need to do any ideas? The only thing I do is when I do downshift gears I will pop the throttle some with the clutch pulled in before I let out on the clutch... I doubt its related, but thats the only thing I do thats not required when downshifting gears...I always heard that this helps mesh the gears before you put a load on them... Thanks for the help...
 
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 11:00 AM
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I thought one of the main reasons for the short service intervals were the 06 trannies. I don't much care about cases, but would like the internals of the 07s. And a real OD 6th to lower the revs further.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 05:07 PM
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I thought one of the main reasons for the short service intervals were the 06 trannies. I don't much care about cases, but would like the internals of the 07s. And a real OD 6th to lower the revs further.
Lower the revs any further and you'll need to be doing 85mph before you shift into 6th. A real OD puts a lot more stress on the gears. HD changed the gearing on the primary to match the spread of the new 6-speed. The result is lower rpms in 6th without the additional stresses of an overdrive. It's the best of both worlds and the proper way to build a transmission. Even Baker is doing the same thing with their new 6-speed... and it's the best tranny they've got.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 05:48 PM
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I have read three articles and the HD specs on the 07 changes.
Am I reading this right that they have put even larger bearings
and further strengthened the case on the 07 six speed ?

I really have no concern on the bigger engine but I have always
been concerned about the potential inner bearing problem on the 06's trans
HD would not have put out a notice that we had to sign when we purchased
the early 06 Dyna's had there not been a potential problem. This is too risky for
them (not to inform owners)and they were covering their butts (in my humble opinion).
My guess would be that they changed the bearing after a few months production
and it is not a concern now. Maybe QC picked up a bad lot of bearings that went into the
1st few production bikes and after testing they found them OK after that.
But obviously if they have changed the case and bearings the very next year they must
suspect there could be failures on the early 06 Dyna Six Speeds.
They are not going to talk about it anymore than they have to that is for sure.

What'cha think ?

WillieC
I think you gotta remember that HD upped the displacement on the '07 models. They realize that a lot of people will be adding big bore kits, which means even more torque and stress placed on the tranny. If they beefed up the tranny, it's probably for those reasons. I've read reviews on '06 Dynas with over 10,000 miles and no problems, so I'm not going to waste time worrying about something that probably isn't a problem. I've got 7000 miles on mine and it runs like a Swiss watch. Where did you get your info on the tranny updates? I'd be interested in reading it.
 
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HD knew exactly what they were doing when they went to the 1:1 6th gear, lowered the primary gearing and lowered the 1st through 5th ratios. It's quiet, efficient, offers better acceleration then a true OD 6th gear while offering the benefits of lower cruising RPM's at highway speeds. Best of all worlds IMO.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 10:44 PM
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I have read three articles and the HD specs on the 07 changes.
Am I reading this right that they have put even larger bearings
and further strengthened the case on the 07 six speed ?

What'cha think ?

WillieC
I looked through the master changes document from the H-D technical forum. It is supposed to list all the significant changes of the new models. It mentions a change in the shift detent and roller, but not mention of stronger cases or larger bearings. Doesn't mean it didn't happen, just not mentioned there.
 
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