Help Primary Bolt Stripped
Grand HDF Member
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 4,022
Likes: 3
From: Hudson Valley- NY
RE: Help Primary Bolt Stripped
Wow, there's a lot of that going around and my oil change last Fall was no different. I learned my lesson in that 1) you can check and fill the primary though the inspection cover on the primary 2) the factory torx bolts are easily stripped (and ealsily replaced) and 3) use anti-seize on the new bolts when you put them in regardless if they're torx, allen head or anything else.
One last piece of unsolicited advice would be to torque the new derby bolts down to the LOWER of the range of inch pounds shown in the service manual. That way, they will still seal the derby opening but will be much less likely to strip and get overtorqued. Oh yeah, if the paper derby gasket looks at all questionable, replace it. It's only a few bucks and you won't have to start all over again when the old one leaks. If the old one is in good shape, should, it should be good to resuse.
Buy quality tools- the busted knuckles and blood pressure you save may be your own.
One last piece of unsolicited advice would be to torque the new derby bolts down to the LOWER of the range of inch pounds shown in the service manual. That way, they will still seal the derby opening but will be much less likely to strip and get overtorqued. Oh yeah, if the paper derby gasket looks at all questionable, replace it. It's only a few bucks and you won't have to start all over again when the old one leaks. If the old one is in good shape, should, it should be good to resuse.
Buy quality tools- the busted knuckles and blood pressure you save may be your own.
Thread Starter
|
Road Master
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 758
Likes: 0
From: O'fallon,MO
RE: Help Primary Bolt Stripped
Wow,
What an ordeal but the stripped bolt was finally taken out of the bike at 5pm. this afternoon. I tried so many things but what finally worked was a 1/4" drill bit right to the head of the bolt. The end peeled around drill bit just like you guys said it would. I was left with enough bolt to work it loose, although I had to break out the big jaw pliers to get enough leverage to break it loose. I don't know what the dealer was doing but they were obviously standing on the wrench to get the bolt that tight. By the time I got it out, I had the end of the broken bolt rounded off. Sorry but that can't be right.
Well this is just like winning an Oscar, I have so many people to thank that I don't know where to start. So If you replied to my post. THANK YOU. It was definitely appreciated. I wish I knew more to help people out but I'm just not there yet. If there was an HD Forum Hall of Fame you guys would be there. Rogue Rob you are a great guy offering up and sending me your newly replaced factory derby cover. I appreciate it.
One person that did not reply to this question however I took advice from his last post was Tommay. HAVE PLENTY OF BEER. LOL
jdog
What an ordeal but the stripped bolt was finally taken out of the bike at 5pm. this afternoon. I tried so many things but what finally worked was a 1/4" drill bit right to the head of the bolt. The end peeled around drill bit just like you guys said it would. I was left with enough bolt to work it loose, although I had to break out the big jaw pliers to get enough leverage to break it loose. I don't know what the dealer was doing but they were obviously standing on the wrench to get the bolt that tight. By the time I got it out, I had the end of the broken bolt rounded off. Sorry but that can't be right.
Well this is just like winning an Oscar, I have so many people to thank that I don't know where to start. So If you replied to my post. THANK YOU. It was definitely appreciated. I wish I knew more to help people out but I'm just not there yet. If there was an HD Forum Hall of Fame you guys would be there. Rogue Rob you are a great guy offering up and sending me your newly replaced factory derby cover. I appreciate it.
One person that did not reply to this question however I took advice from his last post was Tommay. HAVE PLENTY OF BEER. LOL
jdog
Road Warrior
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,739
Likes: 1
From:
RE: Help Primary Bolt Stripped
After rounding the torz on previous bike decided it was time bought good set of torx sockets for new bike.bought em at oreilys auto they are Lsisle not sure how it is spelled but night day difference between a cheap folding set
Outstanding HDF Member
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,167
Likes: 7
From: FL & SoCal
RE: Help Primary Bolt Stripped
Too bad I saw this post too late. There is only one truly EASY solution for a stripped bolt and this tool is it. It works like a dream. It's from Craftsman and it's called Drill Out. This is the easiest methind I have used to get stripped bolts out yet. It's not cheap but it's easy and fast.
http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/produ...seBVCookie=Yes
http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/produ...seBVCookie=Yes
Tourer
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 260
Likes: 0
From:
RE: Help Primary Bolt Stripped
glad you got it fixed man. I did send out the stuff this morning though 
) I better not see it on ebay haha
I'll pm my addy to ya, but I'm not too concerned over 4 bucks shipping. Tell ya what, next time I'm in your neck of the woods or you're in mine, we'll get together for a brew or 10.
) I better not see it on ebay haha I'll pm my addy to ya, but I'm not too concerned over 4 bucks shipping. Tell ya what, next time I'm in your neck of the woods or you're in mine, we'll get together for a brew or 10.
Thread Starter
|
Road Master
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 758
Likes: 0
From: O'fallon,MO
RE: Help Primary Bolt Stripped
Time for a tool check kit for the rookie....Is it decent stuff....I'm not a tool guy. I'm hearing talk about cheap tools. While I don't have Mac and snap on is this ok.
1. Craftsmen in/lb torque wrench. It's converts to Nm so I can still adjust to FT/LB when it calls for it. Nothing on the 5,000 mile service calls for adjustments above this wrenches capabilities.
2. Craftsmen 8 piece hex set 3/8" drive
3. Craftsment 8 piece torque set. 3/8"drive
4. Craftsmen 19 v drill
5. 2 Craftsmen Socket sets 1-1/4" drive, 1-3/8" drive
6. Dewalt Drill Bits
7. Dewalt Torque Bit set
8. Teflon TFE pipe thread
9. Blue Loctite
10. Permatex Anti-seize
11. Belt Tensioner
12. Oil Filter Wrench
13.Spanner Wrench
14. Dyna Service Manual
15. Extra Redline ShockProof Heavy, Redline 20w50, Redline MTL
16. Refrigerator in the Garage
17. BEER AT ALL TIMES
I still need to get a motorcycle lift.
1. Craftsmen in/lb torque wrench. It's converts to Nm so I can still adjust to FT/LB when it calls for it. Nothing on the 5,000 mile service calls for adjustments above this wrenches capabilities.
2. Craftsmen 8 piece hex set 3/8" drive
3. Craftsment 8 piece torque set. 3/8"drive
4. Craftsmen 19 v drill
5. 2 Craftsmen Socket sets 1-1/4" drive, 1-3/8" drive
6. Dewalt Drill Bits
7. Dewalt Torque Bit set
8. Teflon TFE pipe thread
9. Blue Loctite
10. Permatex Anti-seize
11. Belt Tensioner
12. Oil Filter Wrench
13.Spanner Wrench
14. Dyna Service Manual
15. Extra Redline ShockProof Heavy, Redline 20w50, Redline MTL
16. Refrigerator in the Garage
17. BEER AT ALL TIMES
I still need to get a motorcycle lift.
Club Member
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 14,564
Likes: 9,223
From: the 50s & the 60s
RE: Help Primary Bolt Stripped
ORIGINAL: jdog12091
Time for a tool check kit for the rookie....Is it decent stuff....I'm not a tool guy. I'm hearing talk about cheap tools. While I don't have Mac and snap on is this ok.
1. Craftsmen in/lb torque wrench. It's converts to Nm so I can still adjust to FT/LB when it calls for it. Nothing on the 5,000 mile service calls for adjustments above this wrenches capabilities.
2. Craftsmen 8 piece hex set 3/8" drive
3. Craftsment 8 piece torque set. 3/8"drive
4. Craftsmen 19 v drill
5. 2 Craftsmen Socket sets 1-1/4" drive, 1-3/8" drive
6. Dewalt Drill Bits
7. Dewalt Torque Bit set
8. Teflon TFE pipe thread
9. Blue Loctite
10. Permatex Anti-seize
11. Belt Tensioner
12. Oil Filter Wrench
13.Spanner Wrench
14. Dyna Service Manual
15. Extra Redline ShockProof Heavy, Redline 20w50, Redline MTL
16. Refrigerator in the Garage
17. BEER AT ALL TIMES
I still need to get a motorcycle lift.
Time for a tool check kit for the rookie....Is it decent stuff....I'm not a tool guy. I'm hearing talk about cheap tools. While I don't have Mac and snap on is this ok.
1. Craftsmen in/lb torque wrench. It's converts to Nm so I can still adjust to FT/LB when it calls for it. Nothing on the 5,000 mile service calls for adjustments above this wrenches capabilities.
2. Craftsmen 8 piece hex set 3/8" drive
3. Craftsment 8 piece torque set. 3/8"drive
4. Craftsmen 19 v drill
5. 2 Craftsmen Socket sets 1-1/4" drive, 1-3/8" drive
6. Dewalt Drill Bits
7. Dewalt Torque Bit set
8. Teflon TFE pipe thread
9. Blue Loctite
10. Permatex Anti-seize
11. Belt Tensioner
12. Oil Filter Wrench
13.Spanner Wrench
14. Dyna Service Manual
15. Extra Redline ShockProof Heavy, Redline 20w50, Redline MTL
16. Refrigerator in the Garage
17. BEER AT ALL TIMES
I still need to get a motorcycle lift.
18. motorcycle lift, the yellow one. Can't live without it
19. hand impact, to loosen torx heads with one or two raps, so they don't strip out on you.
edited to add:
20. go get more beer, after you're done you probably will be about a quart low.
mud
HD Forum Stories
The Best of Harley-Davidson for Lifelong Riders
7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles
Verdad Gallardo
8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever
Pouria Savadkouei
10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever
Pouria Savadkouei
Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In
Verdad Gallardo
Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?
Verdad Gallardo
Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept
Verdad Gallardo
Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II
Verdad Gallardo
10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy
Joe Kucinski
10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026
Verdad Gallardo
Road Captain
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 601
Likes: 0
From: Ingleside Texas
RE: Help Primary Bolt Stripped
hehe,,Mud is right,,,make sure to check your fluids when you get done,,,I usually lose about 12 oz. of fluid after working on my bike..I highly recommend 20w-50 Budlight....or you can use the synthetic fluid--Tequila...
Road Warrior
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,374
Likes: 1
From:
RE: Help Primary Bolt Stripped
I highly recommend replacing the torx bolts with stainless allen bolts as Jamie suggested as well. They are SO MUCH EASIER to remove and reinstall.
Glad to hear it worked out for you.
Glad to hear it worked out for you.