Steering stem and triple trees
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Derv:
Do you mean 49mm or 41mm ... the pre-'06 Wide Glides had 41mm forks which will fit your bike ....
I believe the 49mm fork steering stem an triple trees will fit as well, but I believe there is a slight difference in the dimensions and/or design of the way the lower triple tree fits ... as I understand there is a 'work around' that will allow it to work ....
Forum member GeorgeJ has a 2001 FXD with a 2007 front end (which would be 49mm fork) ... you might PM him if he doesn't see your post and offer his experience ....
R/
'Chop
Do you mean 49mm or 41mm ... the pre-'06 Wide Glides had 41mm forks which will fit your bike ....
I believe the 49mm fork steering stem an triple trees will fit as well, but I believe there is a slight difference in the dimensions and/or design of the way the lower triple tree fits ... as I understand there is a 'work around' that will allow it to work ....
Forum member GeorgeJ has a 2001 FXD with a 2007 front end (which would be 49mm fork) ... you might PM him if he doesn't see your post and offer his experience ....
R/
'Chop
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Smashing - thanks fellas. Fast Harley - that is THE question I wanted answered 
Surfor - Cheers man, all the other bits of what I needed to know answered regarding fork diameters, I'll PM George if he's not answered here in a few days. I'm only guessing here but I gather I'll have to change the front wheel spindle / bearing - maybe even the whole front wheel as well to match the bigger forks? I'm a bit foggy on the years they went to the bigger spindles.
Sorry, just thinking out loud. I'm lining up some winter work to keep me out of the pub! Mind you I may as well start it now - weather here in Northern UK is totally cr@p
Now where can I find a set of trees and forks.....Hmmmm?
Derv
Surfor - Cheers man, all the other bits of what I needed to know answered regarding fork diameters, I'll PM George if he's not answered here in a few days. I'm only guessing here but I gather I'll have to change the front wheel spindle / bearing - maybe even the whole front wheel as well to match the bigger forks? I'm a bit foggy on the years they went to the bigger spindles.
Sorry, just thinking out loud. I'm lining up some winter work to keep me out of the pub! Mind you I may as well start it now - weather here in Northern UK is totally cr@p
Now where can I find a set of trees and forks.....Hmmmm?
Derv
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I am at a loss for understanding why you wish to throw money into a 41 mm system when for the same money, since you are starting out fresh, you would not purchase a 49 mm system found on all new dynas. The fork tubes are larger so you may upgrade the internals in the future. They have more room. You can build a V-Rod lowers into a standard or wideglide (+2") set of fork tubes and use easier to find brake adapters bringing the rotors up to 320 mm for better braking. Of course since the V-Rod has dual disk caliper mounting, that is an option. These forks are much lighter and depending on which trees you wish to go with, you can do a mid glide or wide glide tossing that 39 mm narrow glide Sportster fork. You can keep your fender with making a simple fender adapter(s). All parts are "off the shelf" and the fork stops are on the trees. You can either purchase a new hub, wheel, or make adapter spacers to use your old wheel type by going with a 2004/2005 for the cast wheel (has sealed bearings and I am not sure if yours does + more importantly the 1" axle wheel bearing spacer [needs a bigger hole to go inside of the wheel]). You can use a Dresser Brembo set of calipers whereas you could not use them on a 2006~current dyna lowers including Fat Bob. There you have it. Below is a 2005 Dyna w/49 mm forks, V-Rod lowers, 2005 19" wheel and crap tire & 320 mm rotors.
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Howard -
That '05 Low Rider looks great ... are the calipers the stock V-Rod or aftermarket ...?
Is an adapter required for the calipers for use with the 320mm rotors ...? (As I understood, the stock rotors are 11" ... 320mm is about 12.5" ....)
Are those Wide Glide or Mid Glide triple trees in that application ...?
Do you recommend a fixed rate spring or progressive rate ...? (I know Race Tech only offers a progressive rate spring for the 49mm forks, vice allowing one to select the compression rate for 41mm forks ....)
That '05 Low Rider looks great ... are the calipers the stock V-Rod or aftermarket ...?
Is an adapter required for the calipers for use with the 320mm rotors ...? (As I understood, the stock rotors are 11" ... 320mm is about 12.5" ....)
Are those Wide Glide or Mid Glide triple trees in that application ...?
Do you recommend a fixed rate spring or progressive rate ...? (I know Race Tech only offers a progressive rate spring for the 49mm forks, vice allowing one to select the compression rate for 41mm forks ....)
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Howard -
That '05 Low Rider looks great ... are the calipers the stock V-Rod or aftermarket ...?
Is an adapter required for the calipers for use with the 320mm rotors ...? (As I understood, the stock rotors are 11" ... 320mm is about 12.5" ....)
Are those Wide Glide or Mid Glide triple trees in that application ...?
Do you recommend a fixed rate spring or progressive rate ...? (I know Race Tech only offers a progressive rate spring for the 49mm forks, vice allowing one to select the compression rate for 41mm forks ....)
That '05 Low Rider looks great ... are the calipers the stock V-Rod or aftermarket ...?
Is an adapter required for the calipers for use with the 320mm rotors ...? (As I understood, the stock rotors are 11" ... 320mm is about 12.5" ....)
Are those Wide Glide or Mid Glide triple trees in that application ...?
Do you recommend a fixed rate spring or progressive rate ...? (I know Race Tech only offers a progressive rate spring for the 49mm forks, vice allowing one to select the compression rate for 41mm forks ....)
<<< They are real Brembo's
>>> Is an adapter required for the calipers for use with the 320mm rotors ...?
<<< Yes, adapter
>>> Are those Wide Glide or Mid Glide triple trees in that application ...?
<<< I chose Mid Glide but Wide Glide will work also if the right Hub/wheel is chosen.
>>> recommend a fixed rate spring or progressive rate ...?
<<< I dislike progressively wound springs greatly.
>>> (I know Race Tech only offers a progressive rate spring for the 49mm forks, vice allowing one to select the compression rate for 41mm forks ....)
<<< You are correct, RaceTech (which I know fairly well) only sells the progressively wound type. I have been testing straight rate springs only on my cartridges with great results. Ohlins does not make large of diameter fork springs for that big of fork because their forks all have cartridges.
I would look around at different spring makers, I am not interested in going this route using emulators.
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Smashing - thanks fellas. Fast Harley - that is THE question I wanted answered
Surfor - Cheers man, all the other bits of what I needed to know answered regarding fork diameters, I'll PM George if he's not answered here in a few days. I'm only guessing here but I gather I'll have to change the front wheel spindle / bearing - maybe even the whole front wheel as well to match the bigger forks? I'm a bit foggy on the years they went to the bigger spindles.
Sorry, just thinking out loud. I'm lining up some winter work to keep me out of the pub! Mind you I may as well start it now - weather here in Northern UK is totally cr@p
Now where can I find a set of trees and forks.....Hmmmm?
Derv
Surfor - Cheers man, all the other bits of what I needed to know answered regarding fork diameters, I'll PM George if he's not answered here in a few days. I'm only guessing here but I gather I'll have to change the front wheel spindle / bearing - maybe even the whole front wheel as well to match the bigger forks? I'm a bit foggy on the years they went to the bigger spindles.
Sorry, just thinking out loud. I'm lining up some winter work to keep me out of the pub! Mind you I may as well start it now - weather here in Northern UK is totally cr@p
Now where can I find a set of trees and forks.....Hmmmm?
Derv
On my 01 I went with 06 trees (bought from a forum member) and new 49mm forks from Zannotii Harley Dealer (they are a US dealer that gives 20% discount). It's basically a plug and play with the exception on the fork lock. I'm sure there is a way to make the existing lock work on the new stem but I didn't bother.
The lock to lock turning radius is a bit tight to the tank (I have about 1/4 to 3/8 inch clearance but it does not hit) and I'm running a wide glide tank.
With wheels you can re-purpose your existing wheel by changing out bearings and fitting new spacers or pickup either 06-07 wheels (including rotor) or 08+ wheels. The difference is at the axle not at the fork end. In other words 1 inch axle and 25mm axles fit on the fork. I started out with an 06 stock street bob wheel (1 inch axle), then bought a nice profile laced 08 spoke wheel form a forum member. He threw in the axle so all I needed was 25$ worth of chrome HD spacers.
Your stock caliper is a direct bolt on as well.
I also swapped out my rear wheel for a 2005 rear wheel of a Deuce. Another direct bolt on (you use all your existing stock stuff - axle, spacers, sprocket and rotor). The nice thing about the wheel is it's a 4 1/2 inch 17 wheel so you can run a 160 tire (no rub issues). It looks beefier because of the wider rim. I like the look of the solid wheel in the back and the laced up front (for now ha ha)...
I have an album posted with pics of the process. https://www.hdforums.com/forum/membe...t-to-past.html
Any questions PM, I'm on pretty regular.
George
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Derv:
Remember ... which axle you use is dictated by the fork lower sliders ... if you go with early 49mm you'll need 1" ... if you get the later ones you'll need 25mm axle ....
This will dictate which bearings you use in the hub of your wheel ....
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'Chop
Remember ... which axle you use is dictated by the fork lower sliders ... if you go with early 49mm you'll need 1" ... if you get the later ones you'll need 25mm axle ....
This will dictate which bearings you use in the hub of your wheel ....
R/
'Chop
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Wow - lots of info to go at there, thanks to everyone, especially Howard and George. I'll more than likely go the George route, purely because it's the easier of the two options and I'm inherently lazy, but I'll give the V.Rod lowers method a good lookng at - I would like better brakes.
Lots of decisions to make before I tear it down over winter
Thanks once again fore veryones input
Derv
Lots of decisions to make before I tear it down over winter
Thanks once again fore veryones input
Derv