sert voiding warrenty
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Road Master
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sert voiding warrenty
I was phoning arround to some dealers today and getting some prices and trying to figure out where i want to take my bike to get the engine work done i want to do. The guy that i was talking to told me that because i am using a sert that that has voided my warrenty. I know there has ben alot of talk on here regarding warrenties but i was really suprised to hear him say this. He said that because it is for race application only that it will void it and if i was to use gear drive cams that would void it also. I was under the impression that the sert was untraceable once you put a factory map back on but he told me that once you use the sert that it places some sort of a code on your ecm and that if you go to a dealership and they do any kind of diagnostic your info and the fact that you have altered your ecm will be sent to harley via the computer. This sounds kinda funny to me but this guy seemed very knowledgable and helpful up til that pont. Has anybody heard this before.
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It seems that it just depends on the dealer. The dealer that I purchased from told me that the Sert or PC III would kill the warranty but I know that other forum members have had the Sert installed on their bikes and dyno tuned by HD dealers and everything was cool, nothing said about loss of warranty. My Harley dealer also said, “If you use the PC III just remove it before you bring it in for warranty work and don’t say any thing about it.”
The Dealerships are as different as night and day. Shop around until you find one that will work with you on the Sert.
I think that they are afraid that the EPA is going to get heavy handed so some of the dealerships are trying to cover their a$$.
Zyklon
The Dealerships are as different as night and day. Shop around until you find one that will work with you on the Sert.
I think that they are afraid that the EPA is going to get heavy handed so some of the dealerships are trying to cover their a$$.
Zyklon
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They would have to prove that the upgrade caused your problem and that was the reason warranty is voided.A sert upgrade is being traced by the MOCO by your VIN# as some have stated here.How the EPA plays into this is yet unknown.
Road Warrior
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Well,... I guess that I am pretty lucky because the owner of the dealership where I bought my bike was installing a sert on his personal bike when I bought mine. I made a point to ask him if Harley would void my warranty and he told me to just follow the directions in the sert manuel and I asked him again about the warranty and he said that I bought my bike and the sert from him and that he wasnt gonna consider that voiding the warranty cause he said none of the ECM downloads were working on his bike,... so he knows and can tells if someone is abusing the bike or not, and that just merely adding a sert isnt gonna screw anything up. He also went on to add that Harley may not agree with him but that I wasnt taking my bike in for service at the Harley Corporate Office that I would be taking it to him ,...and not to worry.
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The escape clause is going to be the warning that it is for race only applications. Just like the SE II mufflers on my Wide Glide that say
“This product is not for road use”
“This product is designed for use on closed course competition motorcycles only”
Then it goes on to say that it is not EPA compliant. That same warning is applied to the Sert. If the EPA comes down hard do you honestly think that Harley Davidson or the Harley Davidson dealerships are going to eat all those 10,000 dollar fines that the EPA would be handing out? If they walked in and found noncompliant motorcycles sitting in the shop waiting for warranty work then the bean counters from the EPA would start writing citations, giggling, and grabbing their crotch, and the MOCO would sell you down the river in a flash.
Zyklon
“This product is not for road use”
“This product is designed for use on closed course competition motorcycles only”
Then it goes on to say that it is not EPA compliant. That same warning is applied to the Sert. If the EPA comes down hard do you honestly think that Harley Davidson or the Harley Davidson dealerships are going to eat all those 10,000 dollar fines that the EPA would be handing out? If they walked in and found noncompliant motorcycles sitting in the shop waiting for warranty work then the bean counters from the EPA would start writing citations, giggling, and grabbing their crotch, and the MOCO would sell you down the river in a flash.
Zyklon
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RE: sert voiding warrenty
You're asking too vague a question. Yes, the SERT is a warranty-voidable add-on, but to what degree? It's like dominos. If the SERT is the first domino, then you may be screwed if it kills parts but the SERT itself is warrantable for 90 days. If the breather valve fails and you need a rebuild, does the SERT void that? Of course not. Unrelated components. Stock vs. Warranty. Heh. You chose to buy a Harley and chose to hop it up. Why expect the MoCo to foot the repair bill if the combo fails? The best and truly ONLY solution is to have your mods done at ONE dealer and have the warranty explained in writing. Most dealers who do volume will warranty out of their own pockets. They don't care what the MoCo says because they can cover whatever MAY go wrong that the factory rejects. Rest easy. Do the mod and have some fun!