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Old Dec 25, 2011 | 08:17 PM
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Hello all. I have a 2008 FXDB and the bike just started doing a crazy death wobble around turns at highway speeds. The wobble or flex was there before but is now much more extreme since I have installed progressive 440's in 10.5 inch. I also have progressive drop in springs up front, stock length. But the front helped and was installed a year earlier. I know of true-track and believe this is probably the answer but why? Why does a half inch lower shock cause an excessive wobble through highway speed turns? On the straight roads and bumps the suspension is seriously better but the twisties have got me in a twist now. What gives?
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Old Dec 25, 2011 | 08:21 PM
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What setting you have them on? Mine was doing it, and I have the same shocks. I have increased the preload on the rears 2 notches and is so much better.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2011 | 08:26 PM
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You might want to check the front tire for balance or being out of round. I had a softail and it begin to have wobble in turns. The front tire had about 14k miles on it and really didn't show bad signs of abnormal wear. I had the tire changed and the problem went away.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2011 | 08:28 PM
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I have no preload notches. Just use your hand on the top to adjust amount of preload. I will have to stiffen them and see if that helps. I have ordered a true-track, hopefully that will alleviate my problems all together.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2011 | 08:36 PM
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sounds like your tire/wheel is out of balance. those two should be checked/replaced or trued first. Dyna Beads will help out this problem if you dont narrow it down....
 
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Old Dec 25, 2011 | 08:46 PM
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I am inclined to think it has something to do with the rear end and its geometry changing since this became a pronounced issue after the new shocks were installed. Irritating, I just want to ride and when I want to ride I dont want to fart around.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2011 | 09:04 PM
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Theres a whole laundry list of stuff to start checking. First, the simple stuff like tire pressure and wheel balance. My bike liked more pressure when I lowered it. 38-40 respectively. Then theres the steering head bearing. Have you checked the fall away? Then the front and rear axle bearings and of course the swing arm bearing. Lastly, new motor mounts are probably a very good idea. The rubber mounts do not last forever. I don't know how many miles your bike has but mine are trashed within 10K....... but, I ride two up most of the time and thats a large contributor to wasting the rear mount. As you can see just by looking, the swing arm is NOT mounted to the frame. Its mounted to the trans and motor mount which is in turn mounted to the frame. Having a worn out rear mount can only exaggerate swing arm movement. At the very least, if you do the True Track, do the rear motor mount at the same time... JMHO.


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Old Dec 26, 2011 | 01:59 AM
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Do you have any rear tire/fender clearance issues w/ shocks that short?
 
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Originally Posted by bikerlaw
Theres a whole laundry list of stuff to start checking. First, the simple stuff like tire pressure and wheel balance. My bike liked more pressure when I lowered it. 38-40 respectively. Then theres the steering head bearing. Have you checked the fall away? Then the front and rear axle bearings and of course the swing arm bearing. Lastly, new motor mounts are probably a very good idea. The rubber mounts do not last forever. I don't know how many miles your bike has but mine are trashed within 10K....... but, I ride two up most of the time and thats a large contributor to wasting the rear mount. As you can see just by looking, the swing arm is NOT mounted to the frame. Its mounted to the trans and motor mount which is in turn mounted to the frame. Having a worn out rear mount can only exaggerate swing arm movement. At the very least, if you do the True Track, do the rear motor mount at the same time... JMHO.
Good advice here. I'd start with the state of the tyres and wheels, then check the fallaway.

Bolting on a Truetrak to overcome a major problem like this doesn't seem sensible to me. They are for reducing vibration and improving the handling a bit, not for fixing a major instability issue like you have.

If you eliminate faults with the front end and still have the problem then you may have to think about backing out some of your mods. You could have a bad combination of too hard front end, too hard rear end and too low a bike now. All these can lead to wobbles, especially on bends.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2011 | 05:19 AM
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I was looking at a 2003 Dyna service manual and there is an alignment procedure for both the chassis and the power train. Either might be contributing to the problem, as well as the other items members have brought up.
 
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