Super Glide 0-60
Here's a link to some info on the Switchback. Look at the last page for the times on the run and according to the article, they did all this on a windy day and the bike should actually have better numbers.
http://www.mcnews.com/mcn/model_eval/2011NovHDDyna.pdf
http://www.mcnews.com/mcn/model_eval/2011NovHDDyna.pdf
Road Warrior
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If you're beating a 600 it's because the rider doesn't know how to ride. A 600 will destroy any HD short of a V-Rod and even those should get handled by a fair margin. Stock 600's will run in the 10's with a competent rider, HD's wont. No disrespect intended, but 13's are slow in the sport bike world, very slow.
Road Master
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From: West New york, NJ
By some of that mess, do you mean cars? Other than some smaller engine dual sports, and smaller engine Japanese cruisers, because everything else out there makes more power than that. We need about 95hp and 105 tq. Just to catch up.
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From: Ogden, UT
Since I have a Dakota Digital gauge this info is easily available.
Before I installed my TMax w/autotune my very best 0-60 was 4.6 that is with an AN Big Sucker and BR 2-2 pipes.
Now with the TMax and my custom built 2-1 pipes I can easily hit 4.2.
The motor is a bone stock 88 internally.
I also have a 31 tooth pulley.
Before I installed my TMax w/autotune my very best 0-60 was 4.6 that is with an AN Big Sucker and BR 2-2 pipes.
Now with the TMax and my custom built 2-1 pipes I can easily hit 4.2.
The motor is a bone stock 88 internally.
I also have a 31 tooth pulley.
Road Warrior
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would it be fair to say that although on a test performed by an experienced rider a 600cc sportbike will be quicker on a 0-60 race by 1 full second, in real life it's easier to obtain close to max performance from a Harley than froma 600cc?
The reason being that you would have to rev a little (to avoid excessive spinning) the big v-twin at the start and that the almost immediate torque and short gear ratios will allow you to get to 60 in 4-5 seconds, so very close to a normal start, just a bit more aggressive.
But to go from 0 to 60 on a 600cc you'd have to rev it very high and use a lot of clutch to get it moved because the torque is high in the rpm range and first gear is also very long ratio compared to HD. And you need experience in doing this as well as balance yourself to avoid spinning or lifting the front wheel, while the bike accelerates to 60 in 3.2-3.5 seconds.
In practice, if you are at a red light next to a 600cc chances are that you will get off in front unless the other rider is experienced and willing to stress his clutch enough..
The reason being that you would have to rev a little (to avoid excessive spinning) the big v-twin at the start and that the almost immediate torque and short gear ratios will allow you to get to 60 in 4-5 seconds, so very close to a normal start, just a bit more aggressive.
But to go from 0 to 60 on a 600cc you'd have to rev it very high and use a lot of clutch to get it moved because the torque is high in the rpm range and first gear is also very long ratio compared to HD. And you need experience in doing this as well as balance yourself to avoid spinning or lifting the front wheel, while the bike accelerates to 60 in 3.2-3.5 seconds.
In practice, if you are at a red light next to a 600cc chances are that you will get off in front unless the other rider is experienced and willing to stress his clutch enough..
Road Master
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From: West New york, NJ
would it be fair to say that although on a test performed by an experienced rider a 600cc sportbike will be quicker on a 0-60 race by 1 full second, in real life it's easier to obtain close to max performance from a Harley than froma 600cc?
The reason being that you would have to rev a little (to avoid excessive spinning) the big v-twin at the start and that the almost immediate torque and short gear ratios will allow you to get to 60 in 4-5 seconds, so very close to a normal start, just a bit more aggressive.
But to go from 0 to 60 on a 600cc you'd have to rev it very high and use a lot of clutch to get it moved because the torque is high in the rpm range and first gear is also very long ratio compared to HD. And you need experience in doing this as well as balance yourself to avoid spinning or lifting the front wheel, while the bike accelerates to 60 in 3.2-3.5 seconds.
In practice, if you are at a red light next to a 600cc chances are that you will get off in front unless the other rider is experienced and willing to stress his clutch enough..
The reason being that you would have to rev a little (to avoid excessive spinning) the big v-twin at the start and that the almost immediate torque and short gear ratios will allow you to get to 60 in 4-5 seconds, so very close to a normal start, just a bit more aggressive.
But to go from 0 to 60 on a 600cc you'd have to rev it very high and use a lot of clutch to get it moved because the torque is high in the rpm range and first gear is also very long ratio compared to HD. And you need experience in doing this as well as balance yourself to avoid spinning or lifting the front wheel, while the bike accelerates to 60 in 3.2-3.5 seconds.
In practice, if you are at a red light next to a 600cc chances are that you will get off in front unless the other rider is experienced and willing to stress his clutch enough..
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From: Martinsburg, WV
All modern 600's from the big 4 and Triumph's 675 can pull 10's if the rider knows what they're doing.
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"He takes them until they get wound up"
Harleys have bottom end grunt...we start off strong...but the power curve falls flat on its face pretty quickly.
Sport bikes..especialy 600cc ones...they don't have much grunt off the line, but once they wind up past 4,000 - 4,500...they begin to come into their zone...and once up past 6 grand..they're ready to rip past us.
So what he is saying...is true...most of us on our Harleys can take 600cc sport bikes...until they get wound up. True! So we get them for the first couple of hundred feet...big deal....once they wind up...they rip past us like we pulled over and put down the kick stand! LOL.
One of my buds has a Yammy yzr60. At any stoplight or stopsign...or squirting out of the twisties, or taking off going up a hill with a roll-on...I can leave him in the dust. For just a bit...once his tach hits a point..he's like a rubberband that got stretched and let go..and he'll rip past me a few hundred feet later.
So to sum up...yeah, I'm beating him...until he winds up! So now..what's the meaning of that sentence?