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so after much time spent searching and reading up on the sepst and power visions tuner i finally dropped the coin on the power vision from fuel moto. i already have the sepst but lack of a laptop and expense of needing to take it to a dyno tuner whose competence is unknown, i found it cheaper to just get the power visions. i would take my bike back to the dealer to reprogram for some exhaust changes but i dont think they tuned it right the first time( big supprise). jamie at fuel moto is already programing in my mods so i should be good to go when it comes been reading nothing but great things about him on here and the customer service is excelent. this is my first time diving into the tuners and its nice to know ive got jamie @ fuel moto to help answer my questions and not some useless jacka$$ dealer tech that dont know squat. i chose the power vision because it seams easy to use and i dont need a laptop to make changes which is a must for me. if anyone is looking for a tuner i highly suggest you give fuel moto a call
I'm going to tell you now that to get the most out of your PV you're going to want a laptop. You can pick a used one up on eBay for dirt cheap. Yes, you can make changes directly through the PV but to use the Autotune feature, which to me is the whole reason to go with the PV, you'll need a computer.
i can use my desktop computer with it as the Pv does not have to be conected to the bike and computer at the same time(which i cant do). the PV is also more user freindly than my sepst.
i have a powervision. great stuff. jamie was a big help. first map was a little off so he twaecjed it and it runs great. i have a indy outlw pipe so the scavenging is a little different than most pipes.
also at this time i have no desire to get into the auto tune feature. but i like that now i have the ability to add it later on when i add cams and other motor work i have planned. also when using the auto yune, it must stay hooked up on the bike to run, and i dont want that right now
I'm thinking of getting rid of my Pcv for the pv as well. I don't like the piggyback system. What's with the auto tune feature? Do I have to use that feature?
Ok so what I'm gathering is that it's simple to use? I don't have to have a detailed knowledge of dyno tuning to use it? Cause I am pretty much dumb when it comes to that. I would like to be able to make changes in the future though. Is it easy to learn how to make the adjustments?
im kind of in the same boat you are, just starting to learn the tuner thing. if you buy from fuel moto, the will include a preprogramed custom tune for your bike with whatever upgrades you have so its ready to go when you get it. all you have to do is flash you ecm with their custom prelaoded map and your good to go. if you have any questions on further tuning that your not sure of they have great tech support
I'm thinking of getting rid of my Pcv for the pv as well. I don't like the piggyback system. What's with the auto tune feature? Do I have to use that feature?
Hey Chris, it's Jason. What's been goin on? You ready to ride yet? I still owe you a couple beers from last year.
Anyway, I just got the PowerVision from FuelMoto too. I replaced my FuelPak with it. It came loaded with a tune from FuelMoto and I already flashed the bikes computer with it. It's really nice and worth the money.
You don't need to use the Autotune feature but its a really nice feature. Obviously, I haven't got to ride the bike yet cuz its so damn cold but basically, you leave the Powervision connected to the bike and datalog a few datapoints while you go out riding. The book says which ones, and then you download the datalog onto your computer (laptop or desktop; it doesn't matter) and then it will automatically create a tune or modify your currently loaded tune based on the datalog. Pretty cool! This basic version of Autotune uses your stock oxygen sensors (narrowband), which should be fine on stage 1 bikes, but to take full affect of the Autotune, you would have to fork over more money for the dual wideband oxygen sensors. If I ever build the motor, that is when I would go with the wideband sensors.
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