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Headquarters cam HQ0034 Stock 88ci. 2005 Super Glide

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Old Jun 3, 2012 | 10:44 AM
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Arrow Headquarters cam HQ0034 Stock 88ci. 2005 Super Glide

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new to the forum here,I have did a lot of research on this cam i got one out of a big bore kit my neighbor had its a chain drive i have them on the stock cam plate from a 2006 street glide i was told not to run a PClll buy a few good tuners they told me to run a TTS or SE something that would not by-pass the ECM,i think i am just gonna install the cams without doing a big bore on it i have Vance and Hines straight shot slip ons on it now i am kind of on a budget build i was told i would get a lot better response out of the throttle if i put
CYCLE SHACK MT-129 Slip ons on it i would like some help from someone that has experiance with this cam it would be helpful to get some pointers to lead me in the right directions
 
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Old Jun 3, 2012 | 11:03 AM
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Unless you're on a shoestring budget i'd go S&S 510. The HQ cam is a little bit cheaper, but not much, so if you can swing the price difference i'd do it. Due to the higher lift you'll see more flow and lower end torque with the S&S. With the longer duration you'll see a longer power band with the S&S as well, it'll pull hard past your red line. And since the valve lift for the two cams begins at the same position, the power band for the two cams begins in approximately the place, it'll just last a bit longer with the S&S and pull a bit harder throughout due to the higher lift of the S&S. All around, if you can swing the price difference the S&S is just a better choice and is the same class of cam as the one you're looking into.

I just did a similar upgrade on my '05 Dyna Wide Glide. I went with the S&S cam, a gear drive, and a power commander 3. I'm not too hot on the power commander but I needed to make an exception to keep the price down a tad. Aside from that i'm as happy as can be. I am really happy with how the S&S 510 performs in an otherwise stock engine.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2012 | 11:13 AM
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i already have the HQ0034 cams
 
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Old Jun 3, 2012 | 11:40 AM
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HQ cams are excellent.

do a forum search for hq0034

you will find plenty to read.......
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Old Jun 3, 2012 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Ted Tyler
Hi,

new to the forum here,

I [have] did a lot of research on this cam

i got one out of a big bore kit my neighbor had

its a chain drive

i have them on the stock cam plate from a 2006 street glide

i was told not to run a PClll buy [by?] a few good tuners

they told me to run a TTS or SE [Screamin Eagle Race Tuner] something that would not by-pass the ECM,

i think i am just gonna install the cams without doing a big bore on it

i have Vance and Hines straight shot slip ons on it now

i am kind of on a budget build

i was told i would get a lot better response out of the throttle if i put
CYCLE SHACK MT-129 Slip ons on it

i would like some help from someone that has experiance with this cam

it would be helpful to get some pointers to lead me in the right directions
It was kind of hard to read your post without punctuation ... I tried to break up your post into cogent thoughts ... and the above seems about right ...

One question I have is about the '06 Street Glide cam plate ... I assume your concept was to convert your '05 silent chain drive with spring-loaded cam chain tensioners to the later style roller chain drive with hydraulic cam chain tensioners. You are aware that the cams are different from '05 to '06 and later ... have you confirmed that the HQ 0034 cams are correct for your application?

As I recall, in addition to the cam plate changing the outer cam bearing to a "parent material" bushing, the inner cam bearings changed from '05 to '06 as well ... this necessitates the use of 'conversion cams' ... (basically a hybrid between the old and new bearing/bushing systems) ...

I think you will need to verify that the cams will work with your proposed setup ... you may find that you get started on the job and they don't fit ...

My opinion is that the cams (assuming they work) will be a good match for your stock 88" motor and be a good performance upgrade ...

The warning with respect to the PC III is most likely the known issue of their shorting out if/when they get wet ... other than that, they are an acceptable tuner to improve the air-fuel ratio (AFR) ... the TTS MasterTune (which is the vendor who used to make the Screamin' Eagle Race Tuner up until a few years ago) is a good alternative that allows for much greater control over fine tuning the fuel curve (AFR) and also allows one to adjust the timing of the motor, as well ... I think the TTS would be a preferable option--although a little higher price point over the PC III ...

On my '05, I went with a ThunderMax with AutoTune (TMAT) ... and added O2 sensors in my pipes so I could run a closed loop (vice open loop) EFI system ...

Good luck and be sure to ask if you need any further info / assistance ...

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Old Jun 3, 2012 | 12:21 PM
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maybe i had better check into the year of the cam and plate,if it will not work i know the 2006 dyna is by itself but i thought the 2006 street glide was the same.
i better look into it i am only into the cams for $50 so if they don't work it is not gonna hurt to bad,i did have a discussion with 2 good tuners and neither one said they would not work.
but i will look into it further to make sure they will work
 
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Old Jun 3, 2012 | 02:56 PM
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It's '06 and up for Dyna and '07 and up for everything else. Should be no problem.
 
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My point is that the inner cam bearings for 1999 - 2005 are Torrington (Timken) B148 whereas 2006 - present are Torrington B168 ...

I think there is a difference in specs, specifically, the inside diameter of the case/outside diameter of the bearing ... from what I recall, the B148 is 7/8" and the B168 is 1" ... someone might check me on that ...

The conversion cams have an inner end that will fit the B148 and outer end that will fit the late-style ('06 - later) cam plate ... the late-style cams will have a larger dia. inner end to fit the B168 ...

Just because the cams fit the cam plate does not mean the inner end will fit his motor ...
 
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Old Jun 3, 2012 | 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SURFOR Chop
My point is that the inner cam bearings for 1999 - 2005 are Torrington (Timken) B148 whereas 2006 - present are Torrington B168 ...

I think there is a difference in specs, specifically, the inside diameter of the case/outside diameter of the bearing ... from what I recall, the B148 is 7/8" and the B168 is 1" ... someone might check me on that ...

The conversion cams have an inner end that will fit the B148 and outer end that will fit the late-style ('06 - later) cam plate ... the late-style cams will have a larger dia. inner end to fit the B168 ...

Just because the cams fit the cam plate does not mean the inner end will fit his motor ...
the inner end which goes into the motor is 7/8 on these i checked them with calipers
 
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Old Jun 4, 2012 | 11:26 AM
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I'm not trying to prevent you from using the cams ... if you were planning on replacing the stock (INA) inner cam bearings with Torrington/Timken B148 (the acknowledged, preferred bearings) a cheap 'insurance' would be to buy a set of the bearings and just be sure the cams fit the bearings ...

My point is that the bearings will take up some of the inside diameter of the motor ... if the outside diameter of the bearing is 7/8" ... a 7/8" cam will not fit inside (the bearing is not 'paper thin') ...

As I say ... I am not trying to 'pee in your pond' ... if the cams will work, more power to ya ... I am just trying to highlight what could become an issue when it comes time to install them ....

Good luck ...

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