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Thanks for the advice. Do you think there would be a big diff on single rate spring vs others?
So far the it seems
Works black trackers
True track
Traxx single rate springs with intiminators
So far the it seems
Works black trackers
True track
Traxx single rate springs with intiminators
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The single spring allows much better "tuning" of the forks. (I never realized that the stock spring is a progressive spring) That traxxion spring is a real bitch to compress to get the fork caps back on, and then you will probably have to take them off again to cut or add spacer to properly adjust the sag.
I don't remember what year/model of dyna you have...on my 2011 superglide, I cut off 3/4" off of the stock spacer and the sag is very close. I weigh 180, and I will eventually have to cut another 1/4"-1/2"...but for your weight it will be within a fraction.
I may eventually go to the traxxion but I haven't been impressed with the delays in responses to e-mails and also ryderbikers 4 month wait to get the right spring.
I don't remember what year/model of dyna you have...on my 2011 superglide, I cut off 3/4" off of the stock spacer and the sag is very close. I weigh 180, and I will eventually have to cut another 1/4"-1/2"...but for your weight it will be within a fraction.
I may eventually go to the traxxion but I haven't been impressed with the delays in responses to e-mails and also ryderbikers 4 month wait to get the right spring.
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So the spacer that comes with the springs i will have to cut down to get the right sag??
Sag is just howuch the fork is compressed at idle with me on the bike?
I dont have a garage. So its a little worrysome for me buying and having a shop install them. Then to come back again to uninstall, chop the spacers and reinstall.
When do you know its set up right
Anyone line in san diego area that knows a good shop to go to for this
Sag is just howuch the fork is compressed at idle with me on the bike?
I dont have a garage. So its a little worrysome for me buying and having a shop install them. Then to come back again to uninstall, chop the spacers and reinstall.
When do you know its set up right
Anyone line in san diego area that knows a good shop to go to for this
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Even if you just buy the intimidators and use the stock springs and metal spacer...you will have to cut down the spacer to allow for the intimidator you are dropping in. (the springs ride on top of them) they are about 3/4". You could buy the load adjusters and then you could fine tune it without taking it apart but once you get it dialed in then they are kinda useless unless you change it up again.
You should try call Brian @ Ricor as he was a dyna owner and can get you real close for your year and make dyna. He's pretty busy so sometimes he answers the phone and sometimes it may take several days to hear back, but he will get you close enough for your weight and what kinda ride you want. He also ran a race tech progressive spring with the ricors in his dyna and really liked them.
The problem for you with a different spring is that the springs and spacers will be different lengths then your stock one and will require more hit and miss work. If you use the stock spring and spacer you can drop them in once and be done based on previous stock installs done by Brian and others. It won't be as perfect as it can be but you will still be blown away on the improvement over stock.
There are a lot of forum members that are in San Diego...I lived there for 35 years so I notice them all the time. Someone will chime in and help you for a 6-pack...That's the kinda people that are on this forum.
As far as sag goes... the target goal is to have your forks compress 1/3 of the travel.
The travel is the difference between the forks being compressed with the weight of the bike and also you on it and the forks fully extended (like have the bike in the air with no weight on it) So you have to do some measuring with the bike in the air, with the forks compressed (without springs) and with the bike on the ground with you on it.
I'm not a suspension guru, so if I made any mistakes here, you all feel free to correct me.
You should try call Brian @ Ricor as he was a dyna owner and can get you real close for your year and make dyna. He's pretty busy so sometimes he answers the phone and sometimes it may take several days to hear back, but he will get you close enough for your weight and what kinda ride you want. He also ran a race tech progressive spring with the ricors in his dyna and really liked them.
The problem for you with a different spring is that the springs and spacers will be different lengths then your stock one and will require more hit and miss work. If you use the stock spring and spacer you can drop them in once and be done based on previous stock installs done by Brian and others. It won't be as perfect as it can be but you will still be blown away on the improvement over stock.
There are a lot of forum members that are in San Diego...I lived there for 35 years so I notice them all the time. Someone will chime in and help you for a 6-pack...That's the kinda people that are on this forum.
As far as sag goes... the target goal is to have your forks compress 1/3 of the travel.
The travel is the difference between the forks being compressed with the weight of the bike and also you on it and the forks fully extended (like have the bike in the air with no weight on it) So you have to do some measuring with the bike in the air, with the forks compressed (without springs) and with the bike on the ground with you on it.
I'm not a suspension guru, so if I made any mistakes here, you all feel free to correct me.
for the rear end where you already have rthe touring air shocks have you tried changing the oil out in them for a heavuier weight oil and then adjusting air pressures for it?
i just put a set of tourign shocks on my dyna and changed the oil out the stuff that came out was nasty as all hell. IIRC the factory oil is close to or at 5wt. maybe 10 wt oil in it might help make the ride a bit better.
i just put a set of tourign shocks on my dyna and changed the oil out the stuff that came out was nasty as all hell. IIRC the factory oil is close to or at 5wt. maybe 10 wt oil in it might help make the ride a bit better.
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for the rear end where you already have rthe touring air shocks have you tried changing the oil out in them for a heavuier weight oil and then adjusting air pressures for it?
i just put a set of tourign shocks on my dyna and changed the oil out the stuff that came out was nasty as all hell. IIRC the factory oil is close to or at 5wt. maybe 10 wt oil in it might help make the ride a bit better.
i just put a set of tourign shocks on my dyna and changed the oil out the stuff that came out was nasty as all hell. IIRC the factory oil is close to or at 5wt. maybe 10 wt oil in it might help make the ride a bit better.
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Be careful with air shocks on a dyna...here is a post by Brian at ricor shocks that describes the dangers:
I'm not trying to sell shocks here but do feel that for the good of the forum members I need to talk about the dangers of running these shocks on a Dyna. Although you may be able to get close to the spring rate that you need by airing them up they have less than half the damping required. They may feel good on small bumps because they have very little compression damping but danger is with the bigger bumps. You can blow through the travel and bottom out so fast at the very least you will bend bolts. I have done it. I have hit so hard with these that I have flown scary high out of the seat, this was on the same bumps I normally hit every day.
If you are looking for replacement shocks on a tight budget check out e-bay or the classifieds on here for take offs but for your safety I would recommend that you don't run touring air shocks on a Dyna
I'm not trying to sell shocks here but do feel that for the good of the forum members I need to talk about the dangers of running these shocks on a Dyna. Although you may be able to get close to the spring rate that you need by airing them up they have less than half the damping required. They may feel good on small bumps because they have very little compression damping but danger is with the bigger bumps. You can blow through the travel and bottom out so fast at the very least you will bend bolts. I have done it. I have hit so hard with these that I have flown scary high out of the seat, this was on the same bumps I normally hit every day.
If you are looking for replacement shocks on a tight budget check out e-bay or the classifieds on here for take offs but for your safety I would recommend that you don't run touring air shocks on a Dyna
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yeah I am going to get rid of the air shock set up. I got them because I had back pain with the stock springs due to herniated disks. so I wanted something comfy. now that its been 2 years and the pain is gone I am pushing my bike through the california canyons a lot.
the bike wollows, dives front and rear, I feel the front and rear of the bike doing there own thing working against each other and could use better brakes for the job im putting it in.
so no matter what. when I get springs and intimnators I will have to cut down the spacer thats provided?
I really appreciate the info
the bike wollows, dives front and rear, I feel the front and rear of the bike doing there own thing working against each other and could use better brakes for the job im putting it in.
so no matter what. when I get springs and intimnators I will have to cut down the spacer thats provided?
I really appreciate the info
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either cut down or add...but I think most are made to cut down. I also had back surgery years ago and my setup really improves the comfort.
Have you decided on the shocks yet?
One of the deciding factors of why I chose Ricors is the post that Mud (one of the moderators) wrote on testing the ricor shocks when they first came out. He had ohlins on at the time. After the test, he bought the ricors and never went back to the ohlins. He lives in the same area as I do and we carve up a lot of the same twistys (even though I've never met him) and he has been riding probably longer then I've been alive.
The set up is not only great in comfort but will also tear up the twistys....so prepare for scraping
Have you decided on the shocks yet?
One of the deciding factors of why I chose Ricors is the post that Mud (one of the moderators) wrote on testing the ricor shocks when they first came out. He had ohlins on at the time. After the test, he bought the ricors and never went back to the ohlins. He lives in the same area as I do and we carve up a lot of the same twistys (even though I've never met him) and he has been riding probably longer then I've been alive.
The set up is not only great in comfort but will also tear up the twistys....so prepare for scraping
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