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Apr 14, 2013 | 03:48 AM

pig iron

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Stage 1 confusion???

I have a 2013 Switchback that I got in March and before I picked it up I had D&D slipons installed which I really like the deep sound of. Of course over time, having come from a carbed 2005 Sportster, I have learned that EFI's tend to run lean and hot and I also have some decel popping.
All I ever plan on adding is the Stage 1 upgrade to let her breathe a little better so I have been looking at a SE air cleaner kit, to help my bike I have been looking a XIED's to get a little more fuel and run cooler.
Is the FL-XIED-10 the right application for my Switchback or would it be the FL-VIED-10's? If I understand correctly the VIED's are for if you do cams or any other mods? So I just want to be sure which are right for my bike.
Also, looking at the SE air cleaner kit in the Harley parts catalog, it says an ECM upgrade is required with the air cleaner to raise the rev limits to 6200rpm, is this really necessary or can I just install the air cleaner and XIED's and be good to go, or do I need to do the upgrade also. I get the feeling the this is the ECM "flash" I keep reading about and the opinion seems to be it's not really worth the cost. Any advice would be great.

Thanks,
Gene

Apr 14, 2013 | 04:34 AM

Spanners39

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I would use a fuel pak or similar and be done with it. XIEDs don't always compensate sufficiently.

Apr 14, 2013 | 04:41 AM

maddghost

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Go to nightrider.com, join the forum there and ask steve, he invented that stuff. all it is , is aresistor that tricks your ecm into thinking your mix is lean, so it compensates by throwing a little more fuel in there. But spanners is right, with a little more bux you can get a full tuner.

Apr 14, 2013 | 06:08 AM

artpe54

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I put XIED's on my FXDC, never could get it o run right with them. Finally install a TT and ad it tuned, runs awesome now. I have D&D FatCats and a AN intake on mine.

Apr 14, 2013 | 06:11 AM

DJY

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Micro tuner $199

Apr 14, 2013 | 06:31 AM

pig iron

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Kind of lost as to what's best to do here, as you can probably tell. I just want my new bike to last a long time and run as well as it can, but I'm not looking to burn any rubber either just want a smooth running machine.
It always sounds so easy online to do these mods yourself, and then I can't even get the damn bolt off to do what I want, lol. I'm not the most mechanical person in the world so I'm a little worried about buying a tuner and not knowing what the hell I'm doing, if I purchase one and can't install it myself can I take it to a shop and will they install it?

Apr 14, 2013 | 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Spanners39

I would use a fuel pak or similar and be done with it. XIEDs don't always compensate sufficiently.

If you are running slip ons and stage 1 A/F and XIED's You will still be lean and hot. Also XIED's are compatible with the V&H Fuel pak and actually recommended. The factory "download" for stage 1 often does help on the performance end, but over the years the results have been mixed. It effects some motors more then others.