what fuel programmer should i get? HELP
6th Gear
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From: NorCal
You forgot to say "in your humble opinion". The EJK tuner (Electronic Jet Kit) adjusts the fuel injection system the same way as adjusting & changing jets in a carburetor. In my humble opinion, that system is all that is necessary in order to rectify the lean problem inherent in the Harleys from the factory and exacerbated by a stage 1 upgrade. A dyno tune is a waste of money unless you are trying to shave tenths of seconds from your 1/4 mile time.
Road Warrior
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From: SW OREGON
Let me put it another way. I don't need or want to spend the money necessary to dial in my motor 100%. My bike runs better than it did stock, better than it did with a stage 1 download from the dealer & better than most of the bikes ridden by folks I know who are not using a tuner. The average rider doesn't need a dyno tune any more than the average motorist needs a dyno tune on his car.
6th Gear
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From: NorCal
Let me put it another way. I don't need or want to spend the money necessary to dial in my motor 100%. My bike runs better than it did stock, better than it did with a stage 1 download from the dealer & better than most of the bikes ridden by folks I know who are not using a tuner. The average rider doesn't need a dyno tune any more than the average motorist needs a dyno tune on his car.
Road Warrior
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From: SW OREGON
so when did this become about you? and what you want? now this is about what you want and not about info for harbourside to make a better choice of tune or program. the intial cost is more but benifits are worth every penny even if your an "average rider". you are correct though if you consider an "average rider" being a rider that doesnt rev his or her bike over half throttle.
Your advice is to spend way more money than necessary in order to solve the OP's problem which "right now on decel its popping and what not." A problem which is easily solved with a total investment of under $200. BTW the 6 adjustments on the EJK cover throttle positions from idle to WOT. I'm not sure you know what you're talking about here.
6th Gear
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From: NorCal
im obviously wasting my time trying to share my knowledge. I understand your device covers idle to wot. what im saying has nothing to do with that. When you get your bike dyno tuned youll understand what im talking about. lets see your bikes power curve look like that with your current setup 
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From: Big ol Titties
It's 8 years old & yer' prolly gonna sell or trade it in. Why drop hundreds into something that's on it's way out and can't be R&R'd onto the new bike? I say wait & spend the money on the new 103 motor. 
If the decel-pop is killin ya, Try the VIEDs or OIEDs. They do work & they're dirt cheap compared to an ECU upgrade. (Not sure why Uncle Chester said they won't work on the '06.)
I agree with the earlier Fuelmoto reviews. Buy from them when you do buy.
If the decel-pop is killin ya, Try the VIEDs or OIEDs. They do work & they're dirt cheap compared to an ECU upgrade. (Not sure why Uncle Chester said they won't work on the '06.)
I agree with the earlier Fuelmoto reviews. Buy from them when you do buy.
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From: Corona, CA.
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From: Connecticut
OK Now.
Can we make this about me for 1 minute? I am with 66 Cruiser about how much money and time I would like to spend. I just put on a pair of MGS True duals on my 2012 bagger. I have ridden it for a week and now have the cash to upgrade the intake to a SE air kit. With that I believe that we all agree that a tuner kit is necessary. #1 I would like to do this myself.
#2 I want the bike to run good. I am not looking to race it. I have limited knowlege about tuning so I also want something I can understand.
Can we make this about me for 1 minute? I am with 66 Cruiser about how much money and time I would like to spend. I just put on a pair of MGS True duals on my 2012 bagger. I have ridden it for a week and now have the cash to upgrade the intake to a SE air kit. With that I believe that we all agree that a tuner kit is necessary. #1 I would like to do this myself.
#2 I want the bike to run good. I am not looking to race it. I have limited knowlege about tuning so I also want something I can understand.
Tourer
Joined: May 2012
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From: Beaverton, OR
I would say this about tuning. It depends on what you are looking for out of your bike. Most piggy back type tuners will not take timing and other major things into consideration when screwing with your map. The only TRUE way to do this is having direct access to the fuel, timing, VE, and other tables required to make a smooth running bike. Having said this I have used the V&H fuel pack (Its crap) I have also used the DynoJet PCIII USB (Not bad but not great). Neither of these remapped all tables in the ECM. To do this you have a few choices. You can get a PV, Zippers Thunder Max with Auto Tune, SE Race Tuner. These are the 3 I hear about the most. On my last bike I had SEII slip ons, and a AN Big Sucker 2. Using the piggy backs my motor ran hotter and just did not perform at all as I wanted. This is far more noticeable on long rides. My 2 cents is you have a 10k+ bike with $100s in parts so why would you go cheap on the 1 part that runs it all and can potentially turn your bike from a 10k Harley to a $100 crap motor?
A few sayings I have heard and live by are:
Fast, Reliable, Cheap. = Pick 2 and ONLY 2.
You can put the best parts on your bike but if you are running it through **** its always going to be ****.
Having said that call Fuel Moto they will get u square with exactly what you are looking for at a good price.
A few sayings I have heard and live by are:
Fast, Reliable, Cheap. = Pick 2 and ONLY 2.
You can put the best parts on your bike but if you are running it through **** its always going to be ****.
Having said that call Fuel Moto they will get u square with exactly what you are looking for at a good price.