New '06 Superglide=PERSONAL opinion...
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RE: New '06 Superglide=PERSONAL opinion...
Its the old "different strokes for different folks."
I have wanted a FXDX for years and now that it has been discontinued I was going to buy a Street Bob. But I found one brand new black on black Sport locally (exactly what I wanted) so I bought it.
If I had not come across this bike I would have bought a Street Bob without missing a beat about the tranny bearing replacement every 15.000 miles. Damn few bike companies, Japanese or other, would do this. My hat is off the the Mo Co for being straight with us from the start and backing a "potential" problem. Notice I said po-tent-ial problem.
Most bike companies would not do a damn thing about a "potential" problem until it became an "established and documented" problem. When the ligitation started they would prolly spend the first few hundred grand doing the old "deny, deny, deny."
Times change, people change, bikes change....hey, its all good.
Way to back your product Willie G.
Ride safe.
Crow
I have wanted a FXDX for years and now that it has been discontinued I was going to buy a Street Bob. But I found one brand new black on black Sport locally (exactly what I wanted) so I bought it.
If I had not come across this bike I would have bought a Street Bob without missing a beat about the tranny bearing replacement every 15.000 miles. Damn few bike companies, Japanese or other, would do this. My hat is off the the Mo Co for being straight with us from the start and backing a "potential" problem. Notice I said po-tent-ial problem.
Most bike companies would not do a damn thing about a "potential" problem until it became an "established and documented" problem. When the ligitation started they would prolly spend the first few hundred grand doing the old "deny, deny, deny."
Times change, people change, bikes change....hey, its all good.
Way to back your product Willie G.
Ride safe.
Crow
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RE: New '06 Superglide=PERSONAL opinion...
First post...former Harley owner (new SG back in 1987, but haven't owned it in many years), and potential near-term future owner. Still trying to decide which bike to buy, but will likely go with the SG, mainly from a value perspective.
As for Carbs vs FI....back in the mid-late 80s when all the sporty cars started going to FI (Camaro, Mustang, Vette, etc), there were a ton of folks complaining about the exact same things I'm reading here - verbatim. Now, nobody but the hardcore racers have or want carbs - and even the majority of those folks use FI. Once you get into it, the things you can do with a computer controlled engine are incredible. It's also incredibly easy - its just a matter of learning how to do it.
Enjoy whatever you have. Me, I'm trying to decide between an 05 FXDWG (dealer wants $18.3k for it....ouch!) or an 06 FXDI. Decisions, decisions...
Bob Cosby
As for Carbs vs FI....back in the mid-late 80s when all the sporty cars started going to FI (Camaro, Mustang, Vette, etc), there were a ton of folks complaining about the exact same things I'm reading here - verbatim. Now, nobody but the hardcore racers have or want carbs - and even the majority of those folks use FI. Once you get into it, the things you can do with a computer controlled engine are incredible. It's also incredibly easy - its just a matter of learning how to do it.
Enjoy whatever you have. Me, I'm trying to decide between an 05 FXDWG (dealer wants $18.3k for it....ouch!) or an 06 FXDI. Decisions, decisions...
Bob Cosby
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RE: New '06 Superglide=PERSONAL opinion...
Bob,
Where do you live?
A dealer here in middle Tennessee is clearing out new '05 wide glides for 16,995 and new '05 low rider's at 14,995, take your pick of what they have left.....sweet! Might have been a one day thing yesterday though : /.
Ride safe.
Crow
Where do you live?
A dealer here in middle Tennessee is clearing out new '05 wide glides for 16,995 and new '05 low rider's at 14,995, take your pick of what they have left.....sweet! Might have been a one day thing yesterday though : /.
Ride safe.
Crow
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As for Carbs vs FI....back in the mid-late 80s when all the sporty cars started going to FI (Camaro, Mustang, Vette, etc), there were a ton of folks complaining about the exact same things I'm reading here - verbatim. Now, nobody but the hardcore racers have or want carbs - and even the majority of those folks use FI. Once you get into it, the things you can do with a computer controlled engine are incredible. It's also incredibly easy - its just a matter of learning how to do it.
There's a guy here who says that he only gets 42-44mpg with his 06, Glide. Hell, I can get over 50mpg with carb on the same motor. Ya see, I fine tuned my carb to be efficient AND powerful. It was sooo easy and I might add, fun and educational as well. When that fool injection breaks, as it must do, good luck fixing it yourself.
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ORIGINAL: Crowdog
Bob,
Where do you live?
A dealer here in middle Tennessee is clearing out new '05 wide glides for 16,995 and new '05 low rider's at 14,995, take your pick of what they have left.....sweet! Might have been a one day thing yesterday though : /.
Ride safe.
Crow
Bob,
Where do you live?
A dealer here in middle Tennessee is clearing out new '05 wide glides for 16,995 and new '05 low rider's at 14,995, take your pick of what they have left.....sweet! Might have been a one day thing yesterday though : /.
Ride safe.
Crow
ORIGINAL: dragsta
That's because the emissions controls on carbs were not working and turned a simple carb into a nightmare of hoses, switches and valves. Even the dealers couldn't work on them. A Harley carb is sooo simple and it works perfectly. It's virtually a no maintenance, reliable, easy to service part. Ya can't improve on that. FI is not an improvement, it's a EPA inspired, complex bunch of crapola.
There's a guy here who says that he only gets 42-44mpg with his 06, Glide. Hell, I can get over 50mpg with carb on the same motor. Ya see, I fine tuned my carb to be efficient AND powerful. It was sooo easy and I might add, fun and educational as well. When that fool injection breaks, as it must do, good luck fixing it yourself.
As for Carbs vs FI....back in the mid-late 80s when all the sporty cars started going to FI (Camaro, Mustang, Vette, etc), there were a ton of folks complaining about the exact same things I'm reading here - verbatim. Now, nobody but the hardcore racers have or want carbs - and even the majority of those folks use FI. Once you get into it, the things you can do with a computer controlled engine are incredible. It's also incredibly easy - its just a matter of learning how to do it.
There's a guy here who says that he only gets 42-44mpg with his 06, Glide. Hell, I can get over 50mpg with carb on the same motor. Ya see, I fine tuned my carb to be efficient AND powerful. It was sooo easy and I might add, fun and educational as well. When that fool injection breaks, as it must do, good luck fixing it yourself.
Enjoy your ride and your carb. I hope to enjoy my ride and my FI in the near future.
Bob
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RE: New '06 Superglide=PERSONAL opinion...
Dragsta, ya gotta remember that most folks only keep their bikes for a few years now. Generally, the FI will last 'em throughout their length of ownership, and do it without all the esoteric mumbo-jumbo of choke, start, warmup, throttle feathering, that us ol' geezers do as a matter of course. And lasting for that time is all HD needs, and in reality, wants. After all, when the shiny wears off, it's time to buy a new bike, at least from HD's point.
For me, a carb bike makes perfect sense. When I know I'll own a bike for 10 - 20 or more years, and do nearly all my own work, and ride it 20k - 40k a year, a carb is plenty efficient (I get 46 - 54 mpg), easy to fiddle with without expensive equipment and software, extremely reliable, and if it finally takes that one way trip to the dumpster, can be replaced for less than $150 at nearly any indy shop or off eBay.
Y'know, a carb is almost a religious experience!
For me, a carb bike makes perfect sense. When I know I'll own a bike for 10 - 20 or more years, and do nearly all my own work, and ride it 20k - 40k a year, a carb is plenty efficient (I get 46 - 54 mpg), easy to fiddle with without expensive equipment and software, extremely reliable, and if it finally takes that one way trip to the dumpster, can be replaced for less than $150 at nearly any indy shop or off eBay.
Y'know, a carb is almost a religious experience!
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RE: New '06 Superglide=PERSONAL opinion...
damn, must be a real bummer not have a kickstart on that bike
easier the better to this old man.
like I said, "different strokes for different folks."
this bike I just bought is my first FI, I will let ya know in a year what I think
ride safe.
Crow
easier the better to this old man.
like I said, "different strokes for different folks."
this bike I just bought is my first FI, I will let ya know in a year what I think
ride safe.
Crow
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RE: New '06 Superglide=PERSONAL opinion...
Pulling a choke and twisting the throttle to fire up a Harley is part of the fun. I also like being able to idle it down before it fully warms up when I have to get off to shut and lock my gates behind me. And ya know, if a kick start wouldn't add a bunch of weight to my bike, I'd consider getting one. lol....
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