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Old Sep 6, 2014 | 07:02 AM
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When buying used it really is buyer beware, that's why I try to buy new whenever possible. I did buy my boat used and it is a cream puff so I guess I was lucky. Nice looking scoot however and hope you ride safely and enjoy.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2014 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Racqueteer9
I don't agree that you should be ranting at the dealer over this. "Gone over with a fine tooth comb", are you kidding? Could they afford to spend the labor to do that and remain in business? Even if they did, I'm not sure they could have anticipated your tires would cup.

When I bought my used Dyna from an independent, I found out on the ride home that the front brake light switch didn't work, which was somewhat dangerous in the heavy traffic. But I didn't even bother returning to ask them to repair it because I knew they wouldn't have the part in stock. I went the next day to the local dealership, bought the manuals and $50 in parts to fix it myself. I worked a fair trade-in so I was and remain satisfied about the transaction. In fact, I'll be returning to that independent to buy my next motorcycle.

Regarding your Sporty, I think we've all been there. Sporty's are the most traded in Harley, if not the most traded in bike from any brand. And accessories are not worth anything in resale. On my last three bikes, the only money I'ver lost while trading was on accessories. Unfortunately, the money most of us spend on Harley accessories is substantial.

Enjoy the new bike, I prefer my current FXDL to the XL1200R I owned a few years ago.
Boy you sure are naive..

If you calculate what the stealership steals somebody's trade in for, and what they sell it for, they have plenty of room to fix the problems and stay in business while enjoying huge gross profits.

The OP has been victimized by the classic STEALership "business model". By low, invest little, sell next to new prices.

They could of put in 2 bolts and a set of tires and still made buku bucks... Instead, they forwarded the used bike inspection/repairs on to the new owner, and is stealing money out of his wallet.

I remember demoing a used bike, the back rest rattled so bad because there were bolts cross threaded stripped, missing and rusted holding it on.. What did the salesman say? "Oh don't worry, it's just a back rest that's loose". The best thing that could happen, is that the "HD tech" monkeys could be given torque wrenches and all power tools taken Away. There would be a lot less problems and hackery.

They don't call them STEALERSHIPS for nothing.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2014 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by ColoFXDC
Boy you sure are naive..

If you calculate what the stealership steals somebody's trade in for, and what they sell it for, they have plenty of room to fix the problems and stay in business while enjoying huge gross profits.

The OP has been victimized by the classic STEALership "business model". By low, invest little, sell next to new prices.

They could of put in 2 bolts and a set of tires and still made buku bucks... Instead, they forwarded the used bike inspection/repairs on to the new owner, and is stealing money out of his wallet.

I remember demoing a used bike, the back rest rattled so bad because there were bolts cross threaded stripped, missing and rusted holding it on.. What did the salesman say? "Oh don't worry, it's just a back rest that's loose". The best thing that could happen, is that the "HD tech" monkeys could be given torque wrenches and all power tools taken Away. There would be a lot less problems and hackery.

They don't call them STEALERSHIPS for nothing.
Ding, Ding. Right on the button.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2014 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ColoFXDC
Boy you sure are naive...
They don't call them STEALERSHIPS for nothing.
I'm naive? I didn't buy my used bike from a "stealership." I bought from an independent, who incidentally put a new front tire on my dyna on THEIR dollar AFTER I purchased it but before I drove it away because THEY didn't like the look of the old tire. I would have been perfectly satisfied to drive off and buy a new tire somewhere's else. But they did it because in their words "we want you to be so satisfied with our company that you'll return to buy your next bike here."

As far as I'm aware, nobody has even stolen anyone's trade, ever. Values of used bikes are readily found on KBB or many other websites. And you can ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS walk away from a deal! You certainly can make made more money selling a bike on ebay or craigslist. But nowadays nobody wants to put in that amount of effort. You'd rather complain that you were screwed by the big, bad dealership. Grow up and take some responsibility for your impetuous decisions fueled by the "gotta have it now" emotion!

I don't usually defend dealerships since I learned 40+ years ago not to trust their mechanics and thereafter have done all my own mechanical work on bikes since then. However, a motorcycle dealership is a BUSINESS, not a charity setup to protect people who don't understand mechanical devices. Either you expect to deal with minor problems on a used bike or you pay extra $$ to buy a "certified" used bike with a warranty. Myself, I'd rather save up front and trust my own mechanical aptitude and acumen.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2014 | 03:09 PM
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I am two pages into this and I am still not sure what you're whining about.Your complaint really sounds more like a case of buyer's remorse than anything else...as does a lot of others here...just say'n

I have purchased a lot of both new and used vehicles from private sellers, used dealers, and dealerships over my lifetime. I have had bad transactions and good transactions, and some that just went south through no fault of anyone. I have bought good and bad vehicles new and used from dealers, good and bad used vehicles from individuals, but hands-down, more of those purchases that I completed at an authorized dealer have turned out to be the better deals in the long run than any vehicle I ever purchased from a private seller...that is probably why I will usually go to an authorized dealer first before buying from an individual.

Also, a private seller is not obligated to tell you squat about the vehicle and sales are usually final with little legal recourse...and most private sellers really do not GAF because they are not in the business to sell vehicles...a dealership, on the other hand, depends on sales, and getting a rep for selling crap is not in their best interest...and if it does happen that a buyer gets a lemon, it is the RARE factory authorized dealer that will not deal with it fairly and reasonably...
 
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Old Sep 6, 2014 | 03:29 PM
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What is the exhaust bracket issue? Have an 07 and have never heard of it. My bike seems to have all the known issues but haven't heard of this one. I think my bike is a Friday or Monday bike! Lol!
 
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Old Sep 6, 2014 | 05:59 PM
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You guys that think the dealership should be an extension of the welfare system need to get a clue. They are a business. They exist to make money. Lots of it. Know this going in. If you don't like the business model, bring your dollars elsewhere.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2014 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by rubberfrog
You guys that think the dealership should be an extension of the welfare system need to get a clue. They are a business. They exist to make money. Lots of it. Know this going in. If you don't like the business model, bring your dollars elsewhere.
I am not a business man, however next time you are in a dealership, look at the building, inventory, employees that must be payed for, also they have electricity, water and gas bills, taxes, and think about the business of selling motorcycles, LIABILITY INSURANCE, due to our country is full of ambulance chasing parasite attorneys looking for any means trying to extract any profit the may make. not saying that there are not some bad apples out there, but one need not be a business man to see that there are a lot of operating costs that have to be recovered. last thing whenever purchasing a used vehicle, especially if one is not very mechanic inclined, have a competent mechanic check it out for you before making the purchase.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2014 | 07:48 PM
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Don't think I am supporting their prices. I think they are super expensive. I only buy there as a last resort, but when I do, I know what I am getting into ahead of time.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2014 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by wastedranger
What is the exhaust bracket issue? Have an 07 and have never heard of it. My bike seems to have all the known issues but haven't heard of this one. I think my bike is a Friday or Monday bike! Lol!
So, what ARE the other '07 issues? IDK that I've had any issue, except perhaps the heavy shift into first. (Sorry to hijack the thread).
 
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