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Old Jul 28, 2022 | 09:53 AM
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installed biltwell frisco's a few weeks back, bike was all good, lights worked. last week suddenly noticed the headlight and runing lights didnt work. checked the fuse box and sure enough, blown fuse for the lighting. put another one in - boom, immedaitely blew the fuse when pressing the high beam button

i took the left side controls off and tried to make sure the wiring wasn't pinched at all, put it all back on, replaced yet another fuse, worked - until i really started shaking the handlebars back and forth. then boom, shorted it again.

my buddy is kinda giving me instruction via text, he said to open up the electrical wrap around the wiring - on that left side - looking for a wire with damaged insulation.

any tips before i cut in there today? much appreciated. mad as hell cause ive been riding to and from radiation for cancer treatment and driving really sucks the fun out of it.

 
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he said to open up the electrical wrap around the wiring
If each wire is individually insulated and that is not broken then as you suspect you have pinched a wire and it is able to contact the bike to ground. Look for that first perhaps.


 

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Originally Posted by Andy from Sandy
If each wire is individually insulated and that is not broken then as you suspect you have pinched a wire and it is able to contact the bike to ground.

Look for that first perhaps.
i may just be repeating what you meant, but i think all the wiring is contained inside the black electrical wrap, those wires may be insulated. he said to look for any signs of wear / abuse on each individual wire. im kind of wondering how far down do i go? Would it make sense that the problem is just at the bars (hence the shorting out when moving back / forth)
 
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Old Jul 28, 2022 | 10:12 AM
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Is the wiring internal? Did you need to do any cutting and joining and if so did you stagger the joints?
 
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Old Jul 28, 2022 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy from Sandy
Is the wiring internal? Did you need to do any cutting and joining and if so did you stagger the joints?
no cutting/joining at all, used stock wiring, barely fit the bars @ 7.5in, but it worked out - wiring isn't internal, but from left hand light controls it goes into the slotted area of the bars and then comes out after the clutch piece
 
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it seems lke if they were pinched / grounded out it would be after the left hand light controls, being pinched by the clutch clamp. only thing i can think of. turn signals work, brake lights work. and all the bulbs work
 
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Take off the switch housing and clutch control and look to see if you have pinched the outer sleeving.
 

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Originally Posted by Andy from Sandy
Take off the switch housing and clutch control and look to see if you have pinched the outer sleeving.

Yessir, did that yesterday, it seemed like the sleeving could've been too tight under the clutch clamp, but there weren't obvious signs of wear or fraying. however, i tried to give it a little more slack, adjusted the clutch clamp to be a tad looser, the headlight / running lights did work when i replaced the fuse and fired her up. However, turned the bike off, walked away for a minute, fired up again, turned bars to center, blew the fuse.
 
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Now the long job then...

I think you need to remove the switch control from the handlebars and remove the sleeving from the wires to be able to inspect each wire carefully.

The connector unfortunately is under the tank and the pins need to be removed from the connector housing in order to get the sleeving off. You might be lucky if you can push it down far enough to where the wires might of got damaged by the clutch but if not there then you have pull the sleeving off.

A couple of screws are used I think to clamp the wires in the switch control housing. Check carefully in there as well.
 
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Now the long job then...

I think you need to remove the switch control from the handlebars and remove the sleeving from the wires to be able to inspect each wire carefully.

The connector unfortunately is under the tank and the pins need to be removed from the connector housing in order to get the sleeving off. You might be lucky if you can push it down far enough to where the wires might of got damaged by the clutch but if not there then you have pull the sleeving off.

A couple of screws are used I think to clamp the wires in the switch control housing. Check carefully in there as well.
woof. i was afraid of that, im pretty novice, but i will give it a shot. thanks for the descriptive info, i hope also to find the wire before pulling the sleeving. there's a local guy i might enlist to do this for pay, but i need to try it myself, im new to motorcycles
 
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