SE heads?
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SE heads?
I was talking to the parts guy at my hd dealer about a cam swap and doing high compression pistons. We talked about what I wanted which was a strong running bike with the high lift so it has that thundering lope, and also keeping a dependable bike that could take a coast to coast ride. He suggested woods 777, with SE ported and polished heads so I would keep my flat pistons but the heads are rounded. Has anyone done anything like this? I almost forgot I have a 14 wg with a stage one with hd tuner. Thanks!
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There are several iterations of SE heads; a part number would be helpful.
EDIT: I just noticed that the SE heads were "ported and polished"? What does that mean? I missed that in the first read.
If you are going to "port and polish" a set of heads, do as Kirby suggests and have your OEM heads worked for those 777 cams. IIRC, the 777s are fairly new, might want to look at some other cams that have been around for a while with proven results.
EDIT: I just noticed that the SE heads were "ported and polished"? What does that mean? I missed that in the first read.
If you are going to "port and polish" a set of heads, do as Kirby suggests and have your OEM heads worked for those 777 cams. IIRC, the 777s are fairly new, might want to look at some other cams that have been around for a while with proven results.
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Ok sorry kinda new to this stuff reason why I'm posting so I can get a little more info on what I could be doing. I know the new heads are gonna be around $500. If I had my heads worked on would that save me some money? And I asked about a 555 and the parts guy said after they had one of there techs put a 777 in he told the parts guy to never order another 555 again after he tested it. But is doing all of this gonna make my reliability go way down?
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Ok sorry kinda new to this stuff reason why I'm posting so I can get a little more info on what I could be doing. I know the new heads are gonna be around $500. If I had my heads worked on would that save me some money? And I asked about a 555 and the parts guy said after they had one of there techs put a 777 in he told the parts guy to never order another 555 again after he tested it. But is doing all of this gonna make my reliability go way down?
You should not purchase any cams until you have the specs on the heads; you have to have a baseline which is why you need the PN for the SE heads. Have the heads already been worked? The most common mistake made by newbies is to let a dealer or independent tech throw together some parts that may not play well together; they have no skin in the game. You pay them and if the bike doesn't perform the way you thought it would, you pay them some more. Not saying that's what's going on; just saying that you need to have a plan, use parts that work well together that have produced the desired results; replicate what has been successful.
I am just saying, take a breath, slow down and maybe contact one of the pros that sponsor this site, like Kirby who has already weighed in. Scott at Hillside Cycles is another but he hasn't chimed in yet. Either of those guys does this stuff for a living and knows what works and what doesn't.
..just an old man's opinion..
you seem to be working this idea backwards
. throwing parts at your bike and wanting everything to work as you have imagined in your head.
First; put the bike on a dyno and chart it. Then, taking that chart, speak with your 'tuner' about what you want your chart to look like. Then the question remains .. how fast do you want to go.? Well, how much money you got.?
There are many things to be considered: octane for a cc trip. reliability. power (not to exceed what your stock crank/clutch/transmission can handle). and cost. Sometimes it is better to take how much $ you want to spend; start from there. Good luck and have fun. !
First; put the bike on a dyno and chart it. Then, taking that chart, speak with your 'tuner' about what you want your chart to look like. Then the question remains .. how fast do you want to go.? Well, how much money you got.?
There are many things to be considered: octane for a cc trip. reliability. power (not to exceed what your stock crank/clutch/transmission can handle). and cost. Sometimes it is better to take how much $ you want to spend; start from there. Good luck and have fun. !
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Ok sorry kinda new to this stuff reason why I'm posting so I can get a little more info on what I could be doing. I know the new heads are gonna be around $500. If I had my heads worked on would that save me some money? And I asked about a 555 and the parts guy said after they had one of there techs put a 777 in he told the parts guy to never order another 555 again after he tested it. But is doing all of this gonna make my reliability go way down?
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Thanks everyone I realize I might be in a little over my head. Lol so bear with me if I done a 777 (from what I have read this is a solid cam with a high lift that is also super strong. Also the 888 is a little to radical for what I want) what should I have done to my head for that cam? Or what head should I get?
I'm not necessarily doing this for the power but I want to pull up somewhere and they ask what motor work I have cause it has a thunder lope and a clean crisp sound. I don't know how to explain it but everyone on here knows the sound and that feeling you get when that bike pulls up next to you.
I'm not necessarily doing this for the power but I want to pull up somewhere and they ask what motor work I have cause it has a thunder lope and a clean crisp sound. I don't know how to explain it but everyone on here knows the sound and that feeling you get when that bike pulls up next to you.