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Re: AutoZone. Like I said...
Amazon.com: Yuasa YUAM720GH GYZ20HL Battery: Automotive
Edit: ad says 310CCA, but the one you will get is the 320CCA version. Has the highest amp-hour rating on the market (think reserve capacity). Top it off with a 2amp charge before installing and your starting problems will just be a bad memory.
Amazon.com: Yuasa YUAM720GH GYZ20HL Battery: Automotive
Edit: ad says 310CCA, but the one you will get is the 320CCA version. Has the highest amp-hour rating on the market (think reserve capacity). Top it off with a 2amp charge before installing and your starting problems will just be a bad memory.
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(I think that pretty much describes your advice.)
You then criticized Dynawg for recommending him to buy the same part and installing it. and maybe fixing it.
My question is a fair one should the OP wait until he is alongside the road to check the connections, like you recommend him do the relay?
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Oh I have read all the post, you are the guy who wants the OP to buy a starter relay but not install it because you are afraid that it might fix the problem and not know that it was fixed, and something about not needing to buy the part unless he needs it but then he already has bought it, so he would have it to change when he needed it.
(I think that pretty much describes your advice.)
You then criticized Dynawg for recommending him to buy the same part and installing it. and maybe fixing it.
My question is a fair one should the OP wait until he is alongside the road to check the connections, like you recommend him do the relay?
(I think that pretty much describes your advice.)
You then criticized Dynawg for recommending him to buy the same part and installing it. and maybe fixing it.
My question is a fair one should the OP wait until he is alongside the road to check the connections, like you recommend him do the relay?
I explained how to do it BEFORE he got stranded.
But being it's an intermittent problem, carry a spare relay IN-CASE it happens again he can verify that the relay IS THE CAUSE and then change a now known to be bad part instead of going out thinking he's solved the problem and in reality he hasn't.
Is that logic to difficult to grasp?
Turns out it maybe his starter. If I read his last post correctly.
And as far as criticizing Dynawg, just throw back the same mud. Different approaches to the same problem. My suggestion was no more far fetched than his, I didn't insult him until he insulted me. He got that. Or are you his protector? This is playground BS.
Rant over.
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Originally said, find the problem before just changing parts.
I explained how to do it BEFORE he got stranded.
But being it's an intermittent problem, carry a spare relay IN-CASE it happens again he can verify that the relay IS THE CAUSE and then change a now known to be bad part instead of going out thinking he's solved the problem and in reality he hasn't.
Is that logic to difficult to grasp?
Turns out it maybe his starter. If I read his last post correctly.
And as far as criticizing Dynawg, just throw back the same mud. Different approaches to the same problem. My suggestion was no more far fetched than his, I didn't insult him until he insulted me. He got that. Or are you his protector? This is playground BS.
Rant over.
I explained how to do it BEFORE he got stranded.
But being it's an intermittent problem, carry a spare relay IN-CASE it happens again he can verify that the relay IS THE CAUSE and then change a now known to be bad part instead of going out thinking he's solved the problem and in reality he hasn't.
Is that logic to difficult to grasp?
Turns out it maybe his starter. If I read his last post correctly.
And as far as criticizing Dynawg, just throw back the same mud. Different approaches to the same problem. My suggestion was no more far fetched than his, I didn't insult him until he insulted me. He got that. Or are you his protector? This is playground BS.
Rant over.
Dude, what's up with all this? Now that you have (hopefully) gotten in your final blows, please go elsewhere.
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Originally said, find the problem before just changing parts.
I explained how to do it BEFORE he got stranded.
But being it's an intermittent problem, carry a spare relay IN-CASE it happens again he can verify that the relay IS THE CAUSE and then change a now known to be bad part instead of going out thinking he's solved the problem and in reality he hasn't.
Is that logic to difficult to grasp?
Turns out it maybe his starter. If I read his last post correctly.
And as far as criticizing Dynawg, just throw back the same mud. Different approaches to the same problem. My suggestion was no more far fetched than his, I didn't insult him until he insulted me. He got that. Or are you his protector? This is playground BS.
Rant over.
I explained how to do it BEFORE he got stranded.
But being it's an intermittent problem, carry a spare relay IN-CASE it happens again he can verify that the relay IS THE CAUSE and then change a now known to be bad part instead of going out thinking he's solved the problem and in reality he hasn't.
Is that logic to difficult to grasp?
Turns out it maybe his starter. If I read his last post correctly.
And as far as criticizing Dynawg, just throw back the same mud. Different approaches to the same problem. My suggestion was no more far fetched than his, I didn't insult him until he insulted me. He got that. Or are you his protector? This is playground BS.
Rant over.
How many times does he have to wiggle the starter relay for you to recommend him changing it?
And you want him getting stuck again,
Next time will probably be in the left turn lane with twenty cars behind him, with some luck his wife or sister will be with him to help push it out of the traffic. Gees, is that to much to grasp.
This for a ten dollar part that you recommend he buy anyway.
This is called preventative maintenance. On a bike that old the connectors/contacts need to be cleaned on a regular basis, same for battery cables. If you think you need a ten dollar relay you replace it.
You don't do this on the side of the road.
Not if you don't have to. Gees.
Don't fix the bike but buy the part you need and keep it with you, great advice
I'm done here, glad the OP did not listen to your advice.
Last edited by Harleycruiser; Mar 9, 2015 at 09:48 PM.
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Gents,
In the famous words of Strother Martin in Cool Hand Luke "what we have here is a failure to communicate".
Watching this very simple thread turn into a pissing contest over how to go about solving the problem is a painful thing to watch and unfortunate. I see both sides of the situation and don't see why one side can't see the other with respect. Ranger's point that replacing a part (forget the cost) to address an intermediate problem without certainty that replacing the part will solve the problem could be premature only for the OP to find himself stranded yet again is a fair point.
On the other hand, replacing a part in a pre-emptive attempt to fix the problem might just fix the problem but if it didn't, the OP would know to look elsewhere for the solution; also a fair point.
It real crux of the issue here is the cost of the part. Replacing an $8 part that may or may not fix the problem is what most would do if they believed there was a 50/50 chance that replacing the part would solve the problem. However, if that part cost $80, or more, one might hesitate unless one was absolutely certain that replacing the part would solve the problem.
There is merit to both approaches but there is no reason to disrespect another forum member over a disagreement on which approach the OP should take; state your position on how you would approach the problem and give others the same opportunity without criticism and let the OP decide how to proceed. Pretty simple, no?
In the famous words of Strother Martin in Cool Hand Luke "what we have here is a failure to communicate".
Watching this very simple thread turn into a pissing contest over how to go about solving the problem is a painful thing to watch and unfortunate. I see both sides of the situation and don't see why one side can't see the other with respect. Ranger's point that replacing a part (forget the cost) to address an intermediate problem without certainty that replacing the part will solve the problem could be premature only for the OP to find himself stranded yet again is a fair point.
On the other hand, replacing a part in a pre-emptive attempt to fix the problem might just fix the problem but if it didn't, the OP would know to look elsewhere for the solution; also a fair point.
It real crux of the issue here is the cost of the part. Replacing an $8 part that may or may not fix the problem is what most would do if they believed there was a 50/50 chance that replacing the part would solve the problem. However, if that part cost $80, or more, one might hesitate unless one was absolutely certain that replacing the part would solve the problem.
There is merit to both approaches but there is no reason to disrespect another forum member over a disagreement on which approach the OP should take; state your position on how you would approach the problem and give others the same opportunity without criticism and let the OP decide how to proceed. Pretty simple, no?
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Op said TWO time the bike did not start, and he wiggled the part in the picture, (the starter relay) and the bike started.
How many times does he have to wiggle the starter relay for you to recommend him changing it?
And you want him getting stuck again,
Next time will probably be in the left turn lane with twenty cars behind him, with some luck his wife or sister will be with him to help push it out of the traffic. Gees, is that to much to grasp.
This for a ten dollar part that you recommend he buy anyway.
This is called preventative maintenance. On a bike that old the connectors/contacts need to be cleaned on a regular basis, same for battery cables. If you think you need a ten dollar relay you replace it.
You don't do this on the side of the road.
Not if you don't have to. Gees.
Don't fix the bike but buy the part you need and keep it with you, great advice
I'm done here, glad the OP did not listen to your advice.
How many times does he have to wiggle the starter relay for you to recommend him changing it?
And you want him getting stuck again,
Next time will probably be in the left turn lane with twenty cars behind him, with some luck his wife or sister will be with him to help push it out of the traffic. Gees, is that to much to grasp.
This for a ten dollar part that you recommend he buy anyway.
This is called preventative maintenance. On a bike that old the connectors/contacts need to be cleaned on a regular basis, same for battery cables. If you think you need a ten dollar relay you replace it.
You don't do this on the side of the road.
Not if you don't have to. Gees.
Don't fix the bike but buy the part you need and keep it with you, great advice
I'm done here, glad the OP did not listen to your advice.
But at least he has a new start relay he didn't need.
Last edited by RANGER73; Mar 10, 2015 at 04:51 PM.
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