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Old May 17, 2015 | 02:58 PM
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Installed a set of mildly worked 06 heads, billet camplate (already had Feuling pump) and Andrews TW54 cams this spring. I've been chasing a knock for a couple weeks (only rode about 4 miles total) sounded like a rod knock, couldnt tell if it was coming from the engine or not. Everything was relativlely quite unitl it warmed up (don't know why now). Re-adjusted pushrods, no change; checked compensator bolt and primary parts, all good. Finally took the cam cover off today to investigate and this is what I found:








In case you cant tell my rear tensioner exploded, ****ed up the chain which was eating into my pump housing. No damage to the cams or camplate. I tore the pump apart and found no internal damage, also flushed out the camplate. Oil in the cam chest had silver flakes, no chunks.

















I don't understand how or what exactly happened, but glad I didn't ride anymore that what I did.
 
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Old May 17, 2015 | 07:48 PM
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Bummer. So sorry, my Bassani Pro Street Brother! From the third & fourth pics, looks like your rear timing chain is indeed toast. Where is the link spindle that is missing from the chain? Better find it!

The damage to the outside of the oil pump is cosmetic. I know that you said that you checked the pump, so I assume that you checked for damage and gearotor tooth-to-tooth clearances greater than .004" (HD max spec for acceptable wear). You already confirmed that the inner pump is not damaged, but replace the pump if the inner pump housing's surface is scored badly where it mounts to the camplate at the crank pinion shaft and/or if the flat outer surfaces of the gearotors are scored, and/or if the gearotors' tooth-to-tooth clearances are close to .004" or greater.

I had a Feuling HP+ oil pump and the gearotor tooth-to-tooth clearances measured .006" (way over spec) after 20k miles. Called Feuling and they offered me a replacement pump for something like $175. Good to know if it turns out you need one.
 

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Old May 17, 2015 | 08:02 PM
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I disassembled the pump and the lifters, I didn't see any damage..no scoring or gouging. I thought I was going to have to replace the pump at least...The damage to the pump housing doesn't concern me, lots of material left. The missing chain link and pin were in the drain pan I used to catch the oil from the cam chest. I have a spare chain, just have to get a new rear shoe assembly
 
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Roger that. Sounds like you're good to go. Wonder why that chain tensioner decided to let loose...
 
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No idea, the damned snap ring was still on the post when I pulled the camplate.
 
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Good you found the issue.
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Old May 18, 2015 | 07:42 PM
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Wow that sucks man, but at least you didn't do some real serious damage.

Perfect time for gear drive
 
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Old May 18, 2015 | 09:46 PM
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Wow.... Good catch man.... could've been a lot worse. That sums up my choice for gear drives......
 
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Originally Posted by HD Bobber

Perfect time for gear drive

Maybe in a couple years, I'm tapped out now.
 
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