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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 07:38 AM
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I've got an '06 FLHT that's a bit past 40k miles now. I've done the Stage 1 stuff and had the carb tuned and she really runs pretty nice. That being said I'm looking into the SE cam plate and oil pump upgrade to gain the hydraulic tensioners. This led my mind to cams, but I figured if I recam this motor with so many miles on it I might need to do lifters and valves? Then that got me thinking that if I was going to do valves I should do head work while I'm there, but at that point why not do a 95"? But now I'm stuck because I'm way over my budget at that point.

So, cams for the TC88 that I will feel now and still be able to use in the future should I go 95"? Will a new cam suffer from lifters or valves with so many miles on them?
 
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Originally Posted by SiggerTX
I've got an '06 FLHT that's a bit past 40k miles now. I've done the Stage 1 stuff and had the carb tuned and she really runs pretty nice. That being said I'm looking into the SE cam plate and oil pump upgrade to gain the hydraulic tensioners. This led my mind to cams, but I figured if I recam this motor with so many miles on it I might need to do lifters and valves? Then that got me thinking that if I was going to do valves I should do head work while I'm there, but at that point why not do a 95"? But now I'm stuck because I'm way over my budget at that point.

So, cams for the TC88 that I will feel now and still be able to use in the future should I go 95"? Will a new cam suffer from lifters or valves with so many miles on them?
Of course, it would be better to do everything at once, 95"/98", headwork, cam plate upgrade and cams all at once. However if budget doesn't allow that a cam only upgrade is a good place to start but the smart money says you will need one cam for the 88" Stage I motor and another for the 95"/98" built up motor, so that idea should be put on the shelf because of the compromise either on the 88" motor to benefit the future 95" motor or visa versa.

I would consider the Andrews 48 or the S&S 551 for the 88" motor and would also replace the lifters and replace the pushrods with adjustable units. Also replace/upgrade the inner cam bearings with the B-148s.

As for the SE cam plate upgrade, you can save a few $$ by replacing the OEM tensioners with the CYCO tensioners. The OEM cam plate is fairly robust with the ball bearings but the tensioners should definitely be replaced. If you wanted to upgrade the oil pump, there are a couple of options for that as well.

http://www.dragspecialties.com/produ...oductId=247299

http://www.bkrider.com/bkrider/skuse...eria=C01090098
 

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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 10:44 AM
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I would forget going hyd tensioners and do the Cyco shoes. Then ya may be able to do cam, bore and headwork together.
 
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Originally Posted by SiggerTX
I've got an '06 FLHT that's a bit past 40k miles now. I've done the Stage 1 stuff and had the carb tuned and she really runs pretty nice. That being said I'm looking into the SE cam plate and oil pump upgrade to gain the hydraulic tensioners. This led my mind to cams, but I figured if I recam this motor with so many miles on it I might need to do lifters and valves? Then that got me thinking that if I was going to do valves I should do head work while I'm there, but at that point why not do a 95"? But now I'm stuck because I'm way over my budget at that point.

So, cams for the TC88 that I will feel now and still be able to use in the future should I go 95"? Will a new cam suffer from lifters or valves with so many miles on them?

Bore to 98"
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Scott, what kind of costs am I looking at for a kit set up like you suggested? Will that cam work with my cam plate? I can do install work but would prefer the Pistons to be seated in the jugs so I don't have to buy a ring compressor. I can handle the bearing installs and such. I would also like to replace the lifters.
 
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Scott, what kind of costs am I looking at for a kit set up like you suggested? Will that cam work with my cam plate? I can do install work but would prefer the Pistons to be seated in the jugs so I don't have to buy a ring compressor. I can handle the bearing installs and such. I would also like to replace the lifters.
Yes, Andrews manufactures a 57 for the early bikes, only listed in their catalog.
Installing a set this afternoon for a clent in the Albany, NY, area in his 2004 RK/98".
Give us a call and we can go over the details.
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Old Jul 26, 2015 | 05:46 PM
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If you're going for budget performance now, I would do Cyco tensioners, the oil pump stuff you want, cams, and a (re)tune. Then save up to do the other big stuff down the road. If your lifters are performing well I would just leave them in there

I would suggest deciding on a plan and sticking with it. If you don't, it's very easy to keep going and going. Last year I put my bike in the air to change the tires and rear belt. Now it's about a week away from being done...after replacing/upgrading about 3/4 of the whole damn thing

However if you want to just do it all at once, then....

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Of course, it would be better to do everything at once, 95&quot;/98&quot;, headwork, cam plate upgrade and cams all at once. However if budget doesn't allow that a cam only upgrade is a good place to start but the smart money says you will need one cam for the 88&quot; Stage I motor and another for the 95&quot;/98&quot; built up motor, so that idea should be put on the shelf because of the compromise either on the 88&quot; motor to benefit the future 95&quot; motor or visa versa. I would consider the Andrews 48 or the S&amp;S 551 for the 88&quot; motor and would also replace the lifters and replace the pushrods with adjustable units. Also replace/upgrade the inner cam bearings with the B-148s. As for the SE cam plate upgrade, you can save a few $$ by replacing the OEM tensioners with the CYCO tensioners. The OEM cam plate is fairly robust with the ball bearings but the tensioners should definitely be replaced. If you wanted to upgrade the oil pump, there are a couple of options for that as well. http://www.dragspecialties.com/produ...oductId=247299 http://www.bkrider.com/bkrider/skuse...eria=C01090098
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