Leave the heads alone? Or no?
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Hello all! Let me get right to the point. I trust my local stealer's advice to bleed me dry. Would love to hear from you guys. So, here's the story:
Just ordered the 2016 Low Rider S (Delivery in mid March)
Also ordered:
SE Pro Bolt On CVO 117 Kit
SE 58 Breather Assy.
SE Supertuner
V&H 2:1 Pro Pipe (Competition baffle)
Other assorted parts stealer said I needed for the build
So? Do I keep the stock heads? Is it worth it to machine/replace them? And, very important, will I still be street legal?
Any advice would be really appreciated. Thanx!
Just ordered the 2016 Low Rider S (Delivery in mid March)
Also ordered:
SE Pro Bolt On CVO 117 Kit
SE 58 Breather Assy.
SE Supertuner
V&H 2:1 Pro Pipe (Competition baffle)
Other assorted parts stealer said I needed for the build
So? Do I keep the stock heads? Is it worth it to machine/replace them? And, very important, will I still be street legal?
Any advice would be really appreciated. Thanx!
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Haven't asked HD yet.
I'm looking to get as much as I can on a somewhat tight budget. I've decided on a few more things (oil pump upgrade is $430). I'm now at $27K and I haven't checked on the heads yet.
I'll have to stop soon. My pockets aren't that deep. (And my old lady is gonna kill me!)
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Absolutely!
I'm pretty handy with tools but this was getting way too complicated for me. I'm still trying to learn. That's why I came here. I knew you guys would help me see what I was missing and tell me if it was worth it or not.
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Oh I am! I'm only suggesting the upgrades (they don't mind. They think I'm made of money), my tech tells me what I'd gain from it, and the finance guy tells me if it voids the warranty or not. Just haven't discussed the heads/headwork yet. I had some things to understand first.
I'm pretty handy with tools but this was getting way too complicated for me. I'm still trying to learn. That's why I came here. I knew you guys would help me see what I was missing and tell me if it was worth it or not.
I'm pretty handy with tools but this was getting way too complicated for me. I'm still trying to learn. That's why I came here. I knew you guys would help me see what I was missing and tell me if it was worth it or not.
You'll find a lot of guys here will sit back and say yeah yeah when you mention a part. For instance oil pump, the stock pump and cam plate is more than enough for what you're doing. Your not building something that is running on the ragged edge, heck I run a stock pump in the 120 I built. The only pumps that are an improvement are the S&S and Thayer, and even then 99% of the builds don't need them.
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Originally Posted by msocko3
You're letting a dealer finance guy tell you about warranty, let me know how well that works out for you. Its one thing for the dealer to warranty something, and something else for Harley Davidson. If all you do is ride around town and will have your dealer come haul it away if something mechanical breaks, you may be good to go. Now if you're 500 miles from home and some other dealer has to repair something which broke in the engine, you're more than likely going to be bummed when they don't cover it. You start doing head work and straying from the approved parts as stated in Harley Davidson's catalog, you're playing warranty Russian Roulette.
You'll find a lot of guys here will sit back and say yeah yeah when you mention a part. For instance oil pump, the stock pump and cam plate is more than enough for what you're doing. Your not building something that is running on the ragged edge, heck I run a stock pump in the 120 I built. The only pumps that are an improvement are the S&S and Thayer, and even then 99% of the builds don't need them.
You'll find a lot of guys here will sit back and say yeah yeah when you mention a part. For instance oil pump, the stock pump and cam plate is more than enough for what you're doing. Your not building something that is running on the ragged edge, heck I run a stock pump in the 120 I built. The only pumps that are an improvement are the S&S and Thayer, and even then 99% of the builds don't need them.
And no, I don't just ride around town. We've done 1600 miles in one weekend. We ride. I've had my low rider less than a year and have over 12K miles on her. She had 8 miles when I got her. My wide glide has 65K and I did most of them.
I have the warranty (on my fxdl) now and I used it down in south Texas last summer. No issues. (some electrical thing with the harness. Fixed, no charge. Even washed my bike for free)
As for the oil pump, IMHO, you can't go wrong with improved lubrication, regardless of riding style. The engine is open, might as well upgrade a few things while I'm in there. Besides, if I DO go with the SE heads, now, or later, I'll be one step ahead with the better pump.
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No bullets in this gun! This is HD ESP Warranty from an authorized HD dealer. He has to look up all the parts to make sure I'm covered. No straying. My tech told me to speak with him because he has the most experience with it.
And no, I don't just ride around town. We've done 1600 miles in one weekend. We ride. I've had my low rider less than a year and have over 12K miles on her. She had 8 miles when I got her. My wide glide has 65K and I did most of them.
I have the warranty (on my fxdl) now and I used it down in south Texas last summer. No issues. (some electrical thing with the harness. Fixed, no charge. Even washed my bike for free)
As for the oil pump, IMHO, you can't go wrong with improved lubrication, regardless of riding style. The engine is open, might as well upgrade a few things while I'm in there. Besides, if I DO go with the SE heads, now, or later, I'll be one step ahead with the better pump.
And no, I don't just ride around town. We've done 1600 miles in one weekend. We ride. I've had my low rider less than a year and have over 12K miles on her. She had 8 miles when I got her. My wide glide has 65K and I did most of them.
I have the warranty (on my fxdl) now and I used it down in south Texas last summer. No issues. (some electrical thing with the harness. Fixed, no charge. Even washed my bike for free)
As for the oil pump, IMHO, you can't go wrong with improved lubrication, regardless of riding style. The engine is open, might as well upgrade a few things while I'm in there. Besides, if I DO go with the SE heads, now, or later, I'll be one step ahead with the better pump.
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Originally Posted by msocko3
Thought since you were watching the budget some, you might want to save the money spent on a pump and plate which isn't going to bring much of anything to the table for what is pretty much a mild build.